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Re: Killed in Action. Found in 1937
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 12 August 07 16:22 BST (UK) »
theres a good chance of finding him,born 1888,means your looking for a soldier aged between 25-30yrs old,there were 200 j.russells killed in ww1,you can rule out all those who dont fit in this age range,his body was identified,so you can rule out those mentioned on memorials and all those who died in other countries other than france/belgium,also eliminate all the johns and josephs,there shouldnt be many names left after that,mack
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Re: Killed in Action. Found in 1937
« Reply #10 on: Monday 27 August 07 22:23 BST (UK) »
I have rechecked again.
James`s name is on the Thiepval Memorial because his remains were not found at the time. As he was found and reburied in 1937  his name was not have been taken off before the start of WW2.
Not all Russells on the CWGC have ages or parents names (I have checked them all). I check the 1937 editions of the Glasgow Evening Citizen and the Evening Times newspapers every time I go to Glasgow, hoping to find the supposed article that had been written about the finding of his remains.
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Re: Killed in Action. Found in 1937
« Reply #11 on: Monday 27 August 07 23:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Costar

With  the information you have given, it seems that you've found your man.

Here is the SDGW entry (note: it is  the only entry for 1 Cameron Highlanders):



Reid: Nicol: Peterhead and Aberdeen
McDonald: Greig: Milne: Aberdeenshire
Moreland: Lanarkshire, Whitehaven in Cumbria and Ireland
Cunningham: Lanarkshire, Cumbria and Ireland
Halliday: Falkirk, Stirlingshire and Ireland
Redpath: Stirlingshire and Banbridge
McKay:

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Re: Killed in Action. Found in 1937
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 August 07 18:51 BST (UK) »
Hi atom12,

I Have a feeling I am on the right trail but I need to know where he is buried.


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Re: Killed in Action. Found in 1937
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 August 07 19:02 BST (UK) »
Now that you have a lead maybe contact CWGC and ask if they can confirm that this soldier's remains were found and then given a proper burial- and if so ask for details like date, etc.
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Re: Killed in Action. Found in 1937
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 29 August 07 00:30 BST (UK) »
Sorry to butt into this posting, but Manmack you say

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the memorial is only for those with no known grave,
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My query is this.  My g.uncle's name is on the Cambrai Memorial, but according to CWGC he died of his wounds.  Is that what all deaths show if there is no body? I assumed that if he died of his wounds, someone would have found the body.

Liz

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Re: Killed in Action. Found in 1937
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 29 August 07 00:49 BST (UK) »
To Liz

Died of Wounds, would suggest that there is a body to bury, certainly with all the ones I've come across the soldier had usually died at a Casualty Clearing station, or in a hospital either abroad or once  invalided home to the UK.

So I'd agree with Manmack that the soldier's named on memorials are for those with 'no known grave'.

Looks like you will have to investigate this one further.  :o
Reid: Nicol: Peterhead and Aberdeen
McDonald: Greig: Milne: Aberdeenshire
Moreland: Lanarkshire, Whitehaven in Cumbria and Ireland
Cunningham: Lanarkshire, Cumbria and Ireland
Halliday: Falkirk, Stirlingshire and Ireland
Redpath: Stirlingshire and Banbridge
McKay:

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Re: Killed in Action. Found in 1937
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 29 August 07 01:16 BST (UK) »
That's what I thought.  All the info I have on my g.uncle I got from the CWGC site.  This is the reference to the memorial.  I assumed it meant his name is listed on it.  I've looked on Findmypast and Findmyrelatives sites and they also show him as dying of his wounds, although I suppose their info is from the CWGC originally.

"Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 1.   Cemetary/Memorial Name: CAMBRAI MEMORIAL, LOUVERVAL"

 I think the best thing for me to do is to visit the cemetery and see what I can find there.  We've driven past it loads of times but it's not one of the ones sites we have visited, as until recently, I didn't even know of this great uncle, never mind his death in WWI.

Liz

ps.  Sorry for delay in responding, I got "Timed Out" of Rootschat.  I'm logging off now to go to bed.

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Re: Killed in Action. Found in 1937
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 29 August 07 09:40 BST (UK) »
Liz- Have you gotten information on uncle from Soldiers Died in the Great War? Think there's usually more information there (like place of enlistment, etc.).
I am presently researching local soldiers who died in WWI for a book being written and I also thought if a soldier is listed on one of the memorials that he/she had no known grave.
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