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ANSELL - Derby - 1851 Census Lookup
« on: Tuesday 14 August 07 12:34 BST (UK) »
I would like to know if anyone can find this family in the 1851 Census:

Head - Samuel ANSELL, born 1821 in Ware, Hertfordshire
Wife - Louisa ANSELL (m.s. SAMPFORD), born 1815 in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
Son - John Francis ANSELL, born 1847 in Derby, Derbyshire
Son - William ANSELL, born 1849 in Derby, Derbyshire

Hoping someone can help...

Best Wishes,
Sarah WALKER (m.s. HALL)
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AIRDRIE, ANDERSON, ANSELL, BAUCHOP, BOORN, BOYLE, BURNET, DALE, DONALDSON, DOWNS, GILLESPIE, GRAHAM, GRAY, HADDOW, HALL, HAYES, HAYNES, HOUDALAKIS, JEFFREY, KIZER, LAWLER, MANTACH, MCALEAR, MCCABE, MCDONALD, MCNAY, MEIKLE, MILLAR, MILNE, MYCOCK, O’DONNELL, PREMO, QUINN,  RAINEY, RILEY, ROBB, RUSSELL, SIMS, SMELLIE, STEVENSON, SUNDERLAND, WALKER, WISEMAN and YOUNG

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Re: ANSELL - Derby - 1851 Census Lookup
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 August 07 12:48 BST (UK) »
Are you - or me  :D - getting confused with the 1861 Family in Derbyshire, where the wife is an Agnes ?

They have a John F born 1847, Derbyshire  ....  :)


LOL - cant find them either in 1851 !
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Re: ANSELL - Derby - 1851 Census Lookup
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 August 07 14:02 BST (UK) »
No, Samuel's first wife was Louisa SAMPFORD, whom he married in 1845 in Ware, Hertfordshire.

After Louisa's death (occurring sometime between 1849 and 1854), Samuel married Agnes WILKINSON in 1854 in Derby, Derbyshire.

This being said, the 1851 census should show Samuel with Louisa...  or at least it should show Samuel and his two sons, John Francis ANSELL and William ANSELL.

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Sarah WALKER (m.s. HALL)
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AIRDRIE, ANDERSON, ANSELL, BAUCHOP, BOORN, BOYLE, BURNET, DALE, DONALDSON, DOWNS, GILLESPIE, GRAHAM, GRAY, HADDOW, HALL, HAYES, HAYNES, HOUDALAKIS, JEFFREY, KIZER, LAWLER, MANTACH, MCALEAR, MCCABE, MCDONALD, MCNAY, MEIKLE, MILLAR, MILNE, MYCOCK, O’DONNELL, PREMO, QUINN,  RAINEY, RILEY, ROBB, RUSSELL, SIMS, SMELLIE, STEVENSON, SUNDERLAND, WALKER, WISEMAN and YOUNG

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Re: ANSELL - Derby - 1851 Census Lookup
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 August 07 14:15 BST (UK) »
ah, OK, thats more clear.

Here he is - alone - in 1851 .... the entry has been scrubbed around and overwritten a bit, but the Occupation would seem to clinch it.

1851 - HO107/2143; Folio: 401; Page: 11 - Derby, St Peter
47, Wilmot Street

In the Household of Mary Steele

 
Samuel Andell [sic] WIDOWER  29  'Lay Agent'  Herts, Ware
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Re: ANSELL - Derby - 1851 Census Lookup
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 August 07 14:22 BST (UK) »
Is this young John in Ware, with Aunt / Uncle ? Mum's name is SAMPFORD, so I guess the Aunt's maiden name is too ... strictly speang, the old lady should be MIL of course ...

1851 - HO107/1705; Folio: 296; Page: 40 - Ware
Musley Lane

 
John Ansell 4  Nephew Derbyshire
 
Thomas Green 23  Head Malt Maker Middx, Shoreditch
Hannah Green 23 Wife Herts, Stortford

Mary Sampford 68  Widow Mother Essex, Widdington
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Re: ANSELL - Derby - 1851 Census Lookup
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 August 07 14:26 BST (UK) »
The William on the 1861 Census is only 4 - did the '1st' William die one wonders ?
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Re: ANSELL - Derby - 1851 Census Lookup
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 August 07 08:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all your help...

Yes, I'm assuming the first William died around 1850...

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Sarah WALKER (m.s. HALL)
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AIRDRIE, ANDERSON, ANSELL, BAUCHOP, BOORN, BOYLE, BURNET, DALE, DONALDSON, DOWNS, GILLESPIE, GRAHAM, GRAY, HADDOW, HALL, HAYES, HAYNES, HOUDALAKIS, JEFFREY, KIZER, LAWLER, MANTACH, MCALEAR, MCCABE, MCDONALD, MCNAY, MEIKLE, MILLAR, MILNE, MYCOCK, O’DONNELL, PREMO, QUINN,  RAINEY, RILEY, ROBB, RUSSELL, SIMS, SMELLIE, STEVENSON, SUNDERLAND, WALKER, WISEMAN and YOUNG
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