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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #18 on: Friday 24 August 07 18:02 BST (UK) »
okay , please excuse the post regarding when and where WJL Cole was born ...  ::)  ......  silly question seeing as I had posted him in the 1841 and 1851 census .... being b abt 1833, Stonehouse, Devon :o


He does not appear on any census thereafter , most probably at sea!
It is just irritating me that I cannot find his christening.

Did you notice in the 1841 census ..where William Cole is living with his mum, Jane ... that living next door is Rebecca, his granny and Alice , his aunt ! (one of the first posts on this thread).

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #19 on: Friday 24 August 07 22:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Michael

back , after a busy afternoon :D

Re: the info that you found on the internet earlier today ... I think that the person who posted the request, was worried that Jane S Cole was getting pension even though Henry R Cole was still alive and working for the RN . They have that in 1851 Jane S Cole was a "pensioner" wife, RN . On the original census I am sure that it states that Jane is a "PURSORS" wife RN. Also going by his service card (posted earlier)...he was a Paymaster... so Purser would definitely fit !

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 25 August 07 01:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Deb!

I've been drawing my family tree according with what you sent me and this is what I have. You can download this file to see what we've got up to now: www.bodegasestepa.com/Cole.xls

I'm visiting my father tomorrow, he's eager to see the tree!

I think that what's missing is:

Death date of WJL COLE
Birth date and death date of Jane Sedgwick LEAN
Information about Henry Roger COLE

Tommorrow I'll scan some old picture of WJL COLE and family and I'll send them to you.

Thanks again.

Michael



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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 25 August 07 18:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Michael

re: Rebecca Lean (Jane S Cole nee Lean's mother)
B abt 1766
died:Mar q 1846, East Stonehouse, Devon
vol 9 pg 196


OOOOO Michael I have just found this ....
we know that William James Lean Cole had a sister, Julia Jane b 1840/1

Julia jane Cole born Mar q 1840, East stonehouse, Devon
vol 9 pg 327

There was an earlier Julia Jane who died:
Birth:
Julia Jane LEAN Cole
Dec q 1837, Stoke Damerel, devon
vol 9 pg 350

Death: :'(
Julia Jane Cole
Mar q 1839 Stoke damerel
vol 9 pg 299

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 25 August 07 18:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Michael

I am trying to find out more about Jane Sedgwick Lean Cole b c 1802, Plymouth Devon.

we have her in the 1841 (aged 35), 1851 (aged 49), 1861 (aged 59)...

I think this may be her in 1871:
Melville House, Wilton street, Portsmouth

Jane S Cole, lodger , widow, 70 annuitant b devonshire, Plymouth
living with Archibald and Louisa Your.

ahhh hah !! Here is her death:

Jane Sedgewick Cole
b abt 1801
died: sept q 1875
Portsea Island, Hampshire
vol 2b pg 279

I still cannot find her birth although her siblings  Alice Sedgwick  Lean , Francis Lean,  William Blinkhorn Lean and Rebecca Sedgwick Lean , were all christened  by their parents Francis Lean and Rebecca.

I wonder if Rebecca Sedgwick Lean isn't Jane Sedgwick Lean. Maybe when they were growing up they differentiated the Mother (Rebecca) with the daughter (Rebecca) by calling her JANE ! LOL ...clutching at straws here  :-\ ::)

will search firther
deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 25 August 07 19:22 BST (UK) »
okay

now onto William James Lean Cole:

we have him in 1841 and 1851 with his mum and siblings ...his dad Henry R Cole seems to be at sea everytime the census is taken  :-\

We know that William JL Cole married Ethel Bridger;

I have posted the details of Ethel Cole and their sons in 1861 and 1871, Ethel then dies in 1878. WLJ cole also never seems to be around at census time ...also at sea ...seems to be a family trait LOL

in 1871 she is still married. maybe ordering Ethel's death cert we may find a clue as to if he was still alive , if he registered her death !

there are sooo many deaths for William Cole ...this may be a possible:
William Cole
b 1833
d Mar 1881
Alresford, Hampshire

I cannot find a William J L Cole death  ::) ???

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 25 August 07 19:32 BST (UK) »
okay
Back again with some more census details ;
Re: Osmer Lean Cole

1881:
Osmer lean Cole, 19
drury Lane, Lincoln , Lincolnshire
The Bishop's Hostel
Student of Theology
b Shirley Hampshire

1891:
7 Heywood St, Bury, Holy Trinity, Lancashire
Osmer Cole head, 30, Curate of Holy Trinity-Bury

1901:
119 fenterman rd
Lambeth London
Osmer Lean Cole, 40 , Clergyman Ch of Eng.

Death:
Osmer Lean Cole
Jun q 1905 Ledbury, herefordshire
vol 6a pg 279

deb  :)

next installment : siblings of Henry R Cole.....phew
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 25 August 07 19:42 BST (UK) »
Michael...

When did Herbert Lean Cole leave England ?

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 25 August 07 20:47 BST (UK) »
Deb,

I don't know when Herbert left England. All I know is that my grandfather Enrique was born in 1901, so it must be before that date. How can I order the death certificate of Ethel Cole?

Have you seen the Excel file with my family tree?

Regards,

Michael