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Re: BOWLES and GOLDSMITH of Waimate South
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 30 August 07 09:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Koromo,

Good thinking! James could well be the brother-in-law.
Good luck with the hunt!

Stephanie
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Re: BOWLES and GOLDSMITH of Waimate South
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 30 August 07 10:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Koromo

Just checked the marriages for Henry Giles BERRYMAN and there are 2 listed:
The other one is 1884 to Eva STEEL, which would account for him being listed as a widower in 1889.
This would fit in with him saying that he had been in the district for 6 years.

Here's her burial record.
WAIMATE OLD, BERRYMAN EVA, 24/08/1888, 28, METHODIST, 437 G

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Re: BOWLES and GOLDSMITH of Waimate South
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 30 August 07 20:08 BST (UK) »

Ohhh, so many women died early in marriage.  I guess childbirth in rural communities with limited medical facilities was a bit of a lottery. 

I've found Henry Giles Berryman in 1861 at Porthmear, Zennor, Cornwall, 2 years old, with his Berryman grandparents and mother, listed as an illegitimate child ... and guess what? On the previous page there is a family who have a son called Henry Giles! ;)

Bren, is there a marriage on your index for Isaac Archer with a bride named Caroline? They are mentioned in Ann Eliza Goldsmith's will.

Thank you again. :)

Koromo
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Lewis: Llanfair Kilgeddin | Abergavenny | NZ
Stallworthy: Bucks. | Samoa | NZ
Brothers: Nottingham | NZ
Darling: Dunbar | Tahiti
Keat: St Minver | NZ
Bowles: Deal | NZ
Coaney: Bucks.
Jones: Brecon

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Re: BOWLES and GOLDSMITH of Waimate South
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 30 August 07 21:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Koromo

1882 Caroline FLANDERS

I don't think Polly and Mary Redman are the same person as you indicated/hoped on 26th.
I have found reference to a Polly BOWLES in a Pedigree chart.  I have got the name and address and the person still lives there (according to the White Pages), so will ring them at the weekend rather than in the evening.  If they are elderly they are less likely to be defensive.

Bren.


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Re: BOWLES and GOLDSMITH of Waimate South
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 30 August 07 21:57 BST (UK) »
Flanders?! The plot thickens ???

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Re: BOWLES and GOLDSMITH of Waimate South
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 30 August 07 22:32 BST (UK) »
Another thought ...

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Ellen NIND, wife of James - 30 pounds

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To her brother and sister James and Helen NIND all moneys after expenses paid.

Are Ellen and Helen one and the same?

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Re: BOWLES and GOLDSMITH of Waimate South
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 30 August 07 23:02 BST (UK) »
No, no! It's all right!  ;D  Look what I've just found:

FreeBMD Marriages
Jun qtr 1866, Eastry (Deal is in the Eastry registration district in Kent)
Joseph Flanders
Caroline Day

Yeeeehaaaa! Got there, but you two have done all the work!   :-* :-*

Bren, how interesting that you've found that reference. I will be on tenterhooks waiting to hear the result of your phone call.  :D

THANK YOU, both.

K.
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PS. I'm sure Ellen and Helen are the same person. I wonder if there is a marriage for James Nind and an Ellen/Helen? (Quickly ducks as Bren throws her NZ marriages index away in irritation!)
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Lewis: Llanfair Kilgeddin | Abergavenny | NZ
Stallworthy: Bucks. | Samoa | NZ
Brothers: Nottingham | NZ
Darling: Dunbar | Tahiti
Keat: St Minver | NZ
Bowles: Deal | NZ
Coaney: Bucks.
Jones: Brecon

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Re: BOWLES and GOLDSMITH of Waimate South
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 30 August 07 23:52 BST (UK) »
James Hind & Ellen Blackmore .....  1905

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Re: BOWLES and GOLDSMITH of Waimate South
« Reply #26 on: Friday 31 August 07 01:36 BST (UK) »
Koromo,

You might already have this but I did a search on the IGI with parents' names William Day and Ann Milgate in Kent and got:

Eliza           b. 1825 d. 1913 (Ann Eliza?)
Elizabeth    b. 1827 d. 1910
Jane           b. 1829 d. 1910
Sarah Ann  b. 1830
James         b. 1833
William       b. 1835
Charles       b. 1837
Henry         b. 1839 d. 1843
Caroline      b. 1841
Helen          b. 1843   d. 1856 (?)
John           b. 1845  d. 1858

These are submitted entries so need checking but the sisters' names fit.

Stephanie
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