BOWLES and GOLDSMITH of Waimate South **Completed**

[DotBrennan]

Can you do me a BRIEF summary of the BOWLES family with just the year for events so that I can establish whether or not this Polly is connected to your lot.
I’m sure most of it’s on the previous pages, but will save me the hassle!!

Bren.

[Koromo]

Zephyr: Thanks for looking for the marriage. I'm not at all sure about Hind - the strange Nind name does exist even though it looks like a typo! The date feels a bit late, too.

Stephanie: Yes, I have those Day siblings, and I had searched for them quite extensively in the later censuses but most had just disappeared. It never occurred to me that more of them might go out to NZ, and even when you put up the will with Caroline's name, I still dismissed it as coincidence!   Ellen/Helen I did find in 1871 under her married name of Ellen Mayfield working as a servant with no husband in sight - her 5 yr old daughter Ellen Mayfield was with her Day grandparents. I've never found them after 1871 which could mean they too emigrated. I need to search the passenger lists more thoroughly.


Bren: this is a summary of all the Bowles:

Parents:
John Jones Bowles
b. 1816, Deal, Kent
d. 1867, Waimate, NZ

m. 1850, Deal, Kent

Elizabeth Day
b. 1828, Canterbury, Kent
d. 1910, Waimate, NZ
[m. 2nd 1869,William Manchester]


Children:
Emily Bowles
b. 1852, Deal, Kent
m. 1869, Henry Manchester, b. 1843 Grantham, Lincolnshire
d. 1930, Christchurch, NZ

Elizabeth Sarah Bowles
b. 1853, Deal, Kent
m. 1870, Walter Junius King, b. 1849 Suffolk
d. 1930, Whetukura, Ormondville

[above parents & daughters on ship Mystery arriving 1859]

Minnie Ellen Goldsmith Bowles
b. 1859, Lyttelton, NZ
m. 1880, John James Lewis, b. 1843 Abergavenny, Wales
d. 1944, Auckland

John William Bowles
b. 1861, Timaru
d. 1894, Waimate

Mary Redman Bowles
b. 1863, Timaru
m. 1889, Henry Giles Berryman, b. 1859 Zennor, Cornwall
d. 1948, Nelson

Willie Goldsmith Bowles
b. 1866, Timaru
m. 1892, Mary Jane Page Wycherley, b. 1857 West Indies
m. 1918, Maud Hardwick (nee Doel), b. 1879 Waimate
d. 1941, Waimate


Didn't sleep well last night - kept waking up and thinking about Bowles and Goldsmith and Day.

Best wishes to all
Koromo

[Mk2_Zephyr]

Lol, all mine


Tis indeed,  James Nind m Ellen Blackmore  ..1905

[Koromo]

LOL! Damn keyboards!!!!

The Blackmore name doesn't ring any bells, but who knows what I've yet to discover. There isn't an Ellen Mayfield to a Blackmore lurking on the index, is there?

K.

[DotBrennan]

1899
Helen MAYFIELD to John Davy BLACKMORE.......

Bren.

[Koromo]

Good grief! I can't believe it!

IF she started out as Helen Day, b. 1848/9 Deal, Kent (as per FreeBMD and the censuses)
- she married her first husband, Robert Mayfield, at age 15 in 1865, Deal (as Ellen)
- her second husband, John Blackmore, at age 49 in 1899, NZ
- her third husband, James Nind, at age 55 in 1905

It fits the 1913 will of Ann Eliza Goldsmith (née Day) leaving items to her sister Ellen Nind, but it's a bit tortuous!

Thanks, Bren
K.

[DotBrennan]

Hi Koromo

I’m so excited for you!!!
It took 3 phone calls to track her down, but it’s definitely the right family, she is a descendant of Elizabeth Sarah Bowles.

She said her Dad went to live with the “Rev Lewis” when he started work in the Hutt Valley!!
She was delighted to be able to talk about the BOWLES family and I think would have reminisced all day!

Her sight is not too good and suggested I ring her daughter (which I had already tried) as she is into Family History too and has a computer.  Will try again tonight when she is home from work, or tomorrow to get hold of her.

Perhaps you could PM me your name and email address.

Now, about Polly.
She told me she was Fanny Barabus(sic) BOWLES, always known as Polly and a teacher in Waimate.
On checking the marriages there is:
1874
Fanny Basshaba BOWLES
James A BOYD

… think I would stick with Polly too!!

but that poses another riddle as I didn’t find a birth in NZ for a Fanny…

Oh well, sounds like this lady and her family know all about Fanny and are equally interested to know about your Minnie Ellen Goldsmith BOWLES.

Bren

[Koromo]

I don't know what to say!

Elizabeth Sarah Bowles went to live near Dannevirke and had 13 children so there had to be many descendants out there, and then to find one whose father had stayed with my gt-grandparents Rev Lewis and Minnie from Waimate - well, I'm speechless.

Bren, I'll never be able to thank you enough for persevering with my Bowles family.

I'll just sit here quietly and read your post for the hundredth time!
Koromo

[DotBrennan]

Hi Koromo

Yes she mentioned 13 children, I think she said her dad was the youngest.
I think she will be a great source of information for you.  She sounded so genuinely delighted that I had phoned.

Unfortunately no reply from the daughter's phone, so will try again tomorrow.  Might have to wait until the evening as I have visitors for lunch (Father's Day), so don't think I have forgotten you...

I guess it's a bit early in the day for you to have a stiff drink!!

Bren