Knox

[Ebony Eyes]

Hi, first time used this website and hoping that some kind Pele can help me, I am stuck with my great grandfather John Knox c1861 Alnwick have two marriages for him but cant find his birth document. Also this is a sensitive issue, was wondering if anyone near Alnwick Library, I have just found out through two certs one birth and one death that my great aunt died 24 July 1908 Alnwick from burns, there was inquest but thought maybe library would have newspaper regarding this incident, phoned library but charge of £30.  Any help apprecited on this. This family proving very stubborn to find anything out. Kind Regards Ebony

[Helen K]

Hi Ebony

Welcome to Rootschat!

Can you please give us more details for John KNOX, such as Census references and the details from the two marriages - it all helps.

Where have you looked for the birth of John KNOX?  Have you searched the full GRO Indexes?

Regards

Helen K

[Ebony Eyes]

Hi Helen, I have looked for John Knox for a long time, have tried Ancestry and aslo Freebmd. I have purchsed thre certs so far but not mine.
His first marriage was to A Sarah Jane Davison which I have cert for
this is info on it.
Married 15th November 1882
St James Church, Alnwick
Father named as John Knox, occupation Shoe maker. have traced the John Knox Shoemaker but he is not my John Knox father. as his son died before the second marriage.
 In first marriage there were Eight Children have all birth certs.

Second marriage
Is the one were I cdescend from
John Knox married Catherine Alice Stevens
17th April 1904
Meeting House Alnwick
on that cert it states Father was John Knox occupation Labourer(deceased)
They had eight children have all their certs, and it is possible that the little girl from first message could be his as well but not named on her birth cert, no father on it. Hope this helps Helen.

[Helen K]

Hi Ebony

Where do you get his birth year from?  Did his Marriage Certificates state specific ages or just 'of full age'?

Do you have John KNOX on all available Census?  If so, are ages and birthplace consistent?

Have you searched the full GRO Indexes on Ancestry?

What are the dates of the three 'wrong' birth certificates and what didn't match up?

Got to go out for a while, but I'll be back!

Regards

Helen K   

[Ebony Eyes]

Hi Helen, Only census that I have seen John Knox on is the 1891 Engalnd with first wife Sarah. The two marriages certs state age 21 on the one for 1882, and on second one 1904 age 43 a widower. The birth certs did not match because father's name not  John.  I think if I remember they stayed Clayport, Alnwick in the 1891 Census Kind Regards Susan

[Helen K]

Hi Ebony

Here's the 1901 Census for your family:

RG13/4840  Folio 37  Page 3
Elliotts Yard, Clayport Street, Alnwick

John KNOX Head M 42 Labourer on Farm Alnwick Northd
Sarah J KNOX Wife M 38 Blyth Northd
John T KNOX Son S 17 Labourer anywhere Alnwick Northd
Joseph KNOX Son S 14 Labourer in bottling stores Alnwick Northd
Mary E KNOX Daur 11 at school Alnwick Northd
William KNOX Son 8 at school Alnwick Northd
Sarah J KNOX Daur 3 at school Alnwick Northd

Still looking at your birth problem.

Regards

Helen K

[Helen K]

Hi Ebony

I've searched years 1857 - 1864 in the GRO Birth Indexes and this is the only entry that comes close:

3Q 1862 John Scott KNOX Alnwick 10b 290

Is this one of the Certificates you've checked?


Struggling to find John and/or his father in 1881 or 1871.  What was given as John's address on his 1882 Marriage Certificate?

Who was Sarah Jane's father and his profession?


Regards

Helen K

[Ebony Eyes]

Hi Helen, The John Scott Knox cert is not one I have ordered, as at minute don't know about the middle name Scott, never heard of that one. but will order it and keep fingers crossed. On John Knox's first marriage cert it states he lived in Windy Egde and was a Farm Labourer. Sarah Jane Davison's father was Joseph Davison his occupation was Pitman. It just says living Alnwick for Sarah. Tahnkyou for all your help much appreciated. Kind Regards

[Helen K]

Hi Ebony

Are you in the UK and therefore able to order the Certificate from the local Register Office?

If so, then state that the father's name is John KNOX and if that doesn't match you will not be supplied with the Certificate.  Your cheque will be returned to you, so it will have cost you nothing.

Regards

Helen K