Knox

[JenB]

On the 1881 census Windy Edge Farm, Alnwick, is at RG11/ 5123/ Folio 88/ Page 10. 
There is no John Knox present. There is a 'farm servant' aged 19 named/transcribed as John Blanny. (I have only seen this on familysearch, not on the original image).

The likliest candidate for Sarah is Sarah J Davison aged 18, born Blyth, a servant in the household of John Richardson, farmer, at Clay House, Meldon.
RG11/5113/ Folio 38/ Page 10. Meldon is to the south-west of Morpeth.

Jennifer

[Helen K]

Hi Jennifer

I've looked at the 1881 Image and it's as transcribed.  There's also a Windy Edge Cottage, but he's not there either.

I thought I'd found a candidate in Roxburghshire, Scotland.  A John KNOX, farm labourer, born in England in 1861.  Unfortunately he's in Scotland for all Census, so the wrong one.

I've tried following the John Scott KNOX through the Census, but having no luck there either.  It's a puzzler!!

Regards

Helen K

[Ebony Eyes]

Hi, Thankyou for help, this is also the problem that I have been having, I thought John Knox in the Scottish Cenus may have been mine too, because he maybe moved away from Alnwick and then back again for marriage. Also was told about the John Blaney so thought maybe a mistake with name, but just not sure on this at all. Have ordered the John Scott Knox birth today so will see if it helps. It gets even more complicated with second marriage because second wife my great grandmother was Catherine Alice Stevens 1884, Couldn't get a cert for her birth either until I ordered a little girl's cert born 1904 Alnwick by the name Alice Ann Moffat Stevens, mother's name on cert Catherine Alice Robertson, no father on it. So went about hunting for Catherine Alice Robertson cert got that and her mother Mary Ann Robertson, but that dosen't tie in with the marriage cert between Walter Stevens and Mary Ann Belford 1884. that states that Mary Ann's name was Moffat. Now I know i have right cert because of the little girl being called Alice Ann Moffat Stevens, This one just seems so complcated. Kind Regards Susan

[Helen K]

You must have a headache with this lot!!

I'm giving you these before I lose them:

Births from GRO Indexes Northumberland for KNOX.

1857 1Q John NewTyne 10b 94
1858 3Q John Morpeth 10b 249
1858 4Q John Tynemouth 10b 156
1859 4Q John Castle Ward 10b 184
1861 2Q John NewcastleT 10b 17
1861 3Q John Castle Ward 10b 197
1862 1Q John Berwick 10b 319
1862 3Q John Scott Alnwick 10b 290
1863 3Q John Tynemouth 10b 124
1864 1Q John William NewcastleT 10b 41
1864 4Q John Thomas NewT 10b 3


Regards

Helen K

[Helen K]

Hi Susan

I've still not found John KNOX in 1881, but there is this possibility for 1871.

1871 Census
RG10/5172  Folio 33  Page 23
Cannongate Street, Alnwick

Ellen KNOX Head W 61 Laundress Northumbd Outchester
Isabella KNOX Daur Unm 41 Formerly Dressmaker Northumbd Alnwick
William KNOX Grandson 12 Scholar Northumbd Alnwick
John KNOX Grandson 8 Scholar Northumbd Alnwick

Haven't found the William KNOX in 1861.

Deaths from FreeBMD in Alnwick:
2Q 1872 Isabella KNOX aged 42yrs.
4Q 1879 Eleanor KNOX aged 70yrs.

I have Ellen and Isabella KNOX in Census back to 1841 - if you want the details just say.

Regards

Helen K

[Ebony Eyes]

Hi Helen, I can't thankyou enough for the refs and help with the census, The Isabella Knox and Eleanor Knox sounds interesting because in the first marriage of John Knox two of his children were named Isabella born 7/07/1901 Clayport Street Alnwick, which if I am right was near Cannon gate Alnwick.Ther was aslo another child called Eleanor Knox unfortunately have been unable to find a birth for her, assuming she would be born between 1883-1901 Alnwick as Sarah Jane Knox nee Davison died 1902. And yes Helen this family causing me a mighty big headache, but can't go any further.  I am not sure that the Isabella Knox you found maybe was a unmarried mother and maybe a John Knox fathered both John and William. That is a long shot. Kind Regards Susan

[Helen K]

Hi Susan

It wasn't unknown for a Groom to name a relative as their father on a Marriage Certificate - it may have seemed better to have something rather than nothing written there.  Hopefully that Birth Certificate you've ordered will help.  If not you may have to turn your attention to Baptisms.

Moving on to the Marriage of Walter STEVENS and Mary A MOFFAT in 1884.

What was the date of that Marriage?  Was Mary Ann's father named as John?

What was the date on the Birth Certificate of Catherine Alice Robertson.

Regards

Helen K


 

[Ebony Eyes]

Hi Helen, The date of Mary Ann's marriage was 3/3/1884 Belford, Father John Moffat, Mother Alice Ann Collins. The date of Catherine Alice Robertson birth on cert was 8/01/1884 Bondgate Street Alnwick. Hope this helps Helen. Kind Regards Susan

[Helen K]

You may already have Mary Ann's birth Registration:

Mary Ann Moffat COLLINS 1Q 1860 Belford 10b 259

I have 1861 and 1871 Census details for Mary Ann and her family - do you need them?

Regards

Helen K