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Offline Aulus

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Ratcliffes - lost and maybe found?
« on: Thursday 13 September 07 12:24 BST (UK) »
I'm just looking at a Ratcliffe line and have lost them on the 1851 census.  Can anyone else spot them?

Ephraim RATCLIFFE born c. 1824, Tockholes (near Darwen), Lancashire
Married Margaret ENTWISTLE 1848
Married Alice BROWN 1867

Children:
William Henry RATCLIFFE born c. 1842-5, Darwen
Sarah A RATCLIFFE born c. 1849, Darweb
Alfred RATCLIFFE born c. 1853, Darwen
Esther RATCLIFFE born c. 1856, Darwen
Richard RATCLIFFE born c. 1864, Darwen
Margaret RATLIFFE born c. 1868, Darwen

I have Ephraim & family on the 1841 (HO107/503, book 7, fol. 8,page 8), the 1861 (RG9/3109; Folio: 130; Page: 48), the 1871 (RG10/4188; Folio: 58; Page: 4), the 1881 (RG11/4203; Folio: 35; Page: 12), the 1891 (RG12/3415; Folio 119; Page 22) and the 1901 (RG13/3921; Folio: 146; Page: 22).

It is so annoying that I can't find them on the 1851!

Also the 1851 might give a clue as to a possible relationship between two Ratclife families on the 1861 census (RG9/3109; Folio: 130; Page: 48).  Ephraim and his family is living next door to a James RATCLIFFE, born in 1811, Tockholes.

On the 1841 census, the (presumably) parents of Ephraim is called James, and that, together with the fact that both Ephraim and this 1811 James both give their birthplace as Tockholes makes me think there's a relationship, but I've been unable to trace it.  Can't find them on Lancashire OPC or the IGI.

Any help gratefully received!
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Ratcliffes - lost and maybe found?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 September 07 13:00 BST (UK) »
In 1851 Ephraim and Margaret RADCLIFFE (this is on both the transcription and the original)are living with Ephraim's parents in Over Darwen.

Class: HO107/ Piece: 2261/ Folio: 55/ Page: 29;
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Re: Ratcliffes - lost and maybe found?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 September 07 14:19 BST (UK) »
Hi,

22 Duckworth Street, Over Darwen.

James Radcliffe H 80 Retired Clogger
Sarah Radcliffe w  70
Alfred Radcliffe grandson 16 Power Loom Weaver
Ephraim son 27 Power Loom Weaver
Margaret d in law 30 Power Loom Weaver
William H grandson 6
Sarah Ann grand dau 2

All born Over Darwen

HO107/2261 folio 55 page 29

Regards

John
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Re: Ratcliffes - lost and maybe found?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 September 07 20:58 BST (UK) »
Oh, for flip's sake, how did I miss that?! 

Thanks very much indeed.
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Ratcliffes - lost and maybe found?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 May 24 15:47 BST (UK) »
Although this thread is ancient it has helped a lot, thank you. I am a descendant of Alfred Ratcliffe living in Perth, Australia. I wasn't able to find anything about his parents until now.

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Re: Ratcliffes - lost and maybe found?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 May 24 12:41 BST (UK) »
St Stephens Tockholes
Born 20th June 1823
baptised 17th August 1823
Ephraim Radcliffe
father James a clogger mother Sally,
abode Tockholes,
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Maria born December 20th 1820,baptised 14th Jan 1821
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St Mary the Virgin Blackburn
18th August 1844,
John Walkden, full age ,weaver, bachelor, of Over Darwen ,father James Walkden a winder,
Maria Ratcliffe, full age, spinster of Over Darwen, father James Ratcliffe a clogger ,
witnesses, Joseph Fairbrother and John Pilkington,
This is the same church that Ephraim married Margaret Entwistle 17th July 1848,
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