Tracing a SOLOMON - how reliable does this sound?

[suzard]

1861
Welber St
Falmouth
William Solomon
29 Dock lab St Gorran
Elizth 34 wife St Gorran
Richard son 8 St Austell
Wm I son 6 St Austell
Geo son 4 St Austell
Susan daughter 11 St E??e
Cordelia daughter 8 mths Falmouth
RG9 1565 47 22

1871
St Stephens
Farm House
William ball head 43 farmer of 40 acres 2 servants Probus Cornwall
Caroline wife 43
Charles son 14 works on farm
Bart son 12
Edwin son 11
Anne L daughter 8
Frederick W son 4
James ball servant U 24 Works on farm indoor
Richard Solomon servant U 18 Works on farm indoor Cornwall St Austell
Anna harper servant U 17 Domestic

all b. St Stephens unless stated otherwise
RG10 2270 28 2
(reg district St Austell)

This could be him - his age and p.o.b. are consistent (only 1901 p.o.b. NK)

If you send for his marriage cert that will give his father's name

Suz

[krisesjoint]

Cancel my Padstow boy - he ends up in Kent married to Ellen. I think Suz's boy seems the most likely, although baptised 7 Aug 1853 so date still does not agree with your birth date.  As Suz says the marriage cert will give you a fathers name to be sure...........Kris 

[Neobright]

Hi guys,

Thanks for all your help.  The navy looks like a dead duck - excuse the pun!

I think I shall order the birth cert to make sure but thanks for all your help...time to get updating...

Cheers,
Neo

[suzard]

Marriage cert would give you his father's name and occupation

Suz

[krisesjoint]

James,

These Navy Records you have - I don't think they are for your Richard. I believe they belong to the Padstow Boy who was in the Navy in 1871 and 1881. 1881 Hes is Married. By 1891 he was in Kent with wife Ellen and family (Now in the Coast Guard Service) He is very consistant with where and when he was born. I think there is little doubt this is the navy man - these records you have belong to this Richard Solomon not yours

It is the marriage cert for Richad and Amelia you require to get his fathers name

Good Luck............Kris  

[suzard]

I have found another complication

back in a mo

Suz

[Neobright]

Where would I be without you guys?

Possibly halfway across the Irish sea chasing a different Richard Solomon!

[suzard]

I think I have found the Devonshire connection!!!

Firstly
William Solomon (who at this point looks likeley to be Richard's father) is unmarried and working as a farm servant in 1851

however
1861 shows him married to Elizth and the eldest child is Susan age 11

I could not find a Susan Solomon born c. 1850

Then I found this!

1851
St Ewe Cornwall
Richard Devonshire head 49 Ag lab St Ewe
Mary wife 52 Werryau??
ELIZ daughter 25U Farm employ Gorran
Caroline daughter 15 Gorran
Emma daughter 10 Gorran
SUSAN daughter 1 St Ewe

HO107 1908 31 4

didn't think it very likely that Mary Devonshire age 52 would have a 1year old daughter -so possibly the daughter was the child of Eliz

then

Marriage
Sept qtr 1852
on same page
Elizabeth Devonshire
William Solomon
5c 197

so it looks very likely that Richard could be
 Richard Devonshire Solomon mar qtr 1853 St Austell!!!!

??

Suz

[Neobright]

Hi,

Yes it does look unlikely that Mary would have a child at 52.  Also I can see the 1861 record that shows:

Cordelia Solomon     8 Mo
Elizth Solomon    34
Geo Solomon    4
Richd Solomon    8
Susan Solomon    11
William Solomon    29
Wm Jno Solomon    6

Richard with the mis-spelt name that we spotted before.  Richard is shown as birth

St Austle, Cornwall, England which could well be a mis-spelling of St Austell.  This would tie in to the later records in 1871 and thereafter and would explain why we cannot find Richard on the 1861 census - his name was mis-spelt and his mother was Elizabeth.

I think I need to sit down and think about all this as my head is hurting!

Thanks for your help!