Birthplace of my 4gtgrandmother?

[jobucoth]

Could someone help trace where my 4gtgrandmother was born?
The information comes from the 1851 Census for England.
HO 107    1652   379    13
Unity Saunders  b1766   North Wales, Hoten
I think Hoten has been mistranscribed but it could also have been incorrectly written down by the enumerator.
Thanks in anticipation.
Roy

[welsh lady]

Ive looked at Genuki but cant find anything similar.I see her husband was William Saunders from 1841 do you have their marriage from the Parish Records and Unitys maiden name?This might help in locating where in North Wales she was from.Unity isnt that common a name.

Welsh Lady

[jobucoth]

Welsh Lady
Thanks for your time, the only thing I know is that she married William before 1822 but where I don't know.
Roy

[Taffy Lee]

The only thing I can suggest is to look at the rest of the page and assess the enumerators handwriting - does his H-O-T-E-N look like other letters on the page?

The only place that springs to mind that sounds similar is Hawarden - pronounced 'Harden'.

Lee

[ludovica]

This might help

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/geogdata/ngw/places.htm

[Hackstaple]

This was an 85 year old woman - certainly without teeth or having only a few - giving a Welsh place name to an English enumerator. English people usually have no idea how to pronounce the Welsh double L and end up with as a sort of distorted H.  or a G pronounced as by a Greek.

I suggest you are really looking for a place name such as Llaniestyn. 

[Gadget]

I think the last letters are ohen so it might be worth looking at places like Y Wern (not Y waun because that is Chirk!)  or  Towyn or Llwyn. There's als a Llywn-onn listed near Wrexham - I've not heard of it though 

Do you have any other clues at all because there are not many bpt records available online for North Wales 

Gadget

PS - also a Hirwaen near Denbigh

[Peterej]

The third letter does not look like a 't' to me. If it wasn't for the 'n' I would have said Hope which is near to Wrexham.

I have also had a look for a possible marriage on the LDS site and there is a possible to a William Saunders but nowhere near Wales. It was on 5 Feb 1793 at Martock, Somerset.

For what it is worth....

Peter

[Paul]

Peter, I would have said Hope. Sometimes It's Hope owen.

Paul