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Re: 1/5 Argyll & Suthd. Highlanders question
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 27 September 07 14:24 BST (UK) »


Thanks Monstar ... I knew you'd set me right ... I thought it looked a bit funny ... should have stuck to Chris Baker !  :)

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 27 September 07 17:12 BST (UK) »
Annie You always do a great job yourself.

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Re: 1/5 Argyll & Suthd. Highlanders question
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 27 September 07 17:37 BST (UK) »

oooh errr Roy !

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Re: 1/5 Argyll & Suthd. Highlanders question
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 14 October 07 10:07 BST (UK) »
hi Folks, at last, the medal cert.  you wouldn't believe the mess i managed to make of acquiring it  :-[   i thought i'd never get my mits on it. 

so, at long last, here it is.  I'm not sure, however, that it takes us any further forward, but perhaps you  know better.

I'm wondering now, if i write to Edinburgh Castle, The War Museum, would they be able to identify his war record from the battalion & service nos. and if we'd be able to buy a copy.  What do you think?

thank you very much for you time   :)
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Re: 1/5 Argyll & Suthd. Highlanders question
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 October 07 13:56 BST (UK) »
Hi  :)

The best place to seek out his information would be the National Archives at Kew.  But, you never know what information the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders museum holds.

Their museum is in Stirling.  Here is a link to their address and email:

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Re: 1/5 Argyll & Suthd. Highlanders question
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 October 07 14:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks a lot :)
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Re: 1/5 Argyll & Suthd. Highlanders question
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 16 May 15 18:28 BST (UK) »
My grandfather was also in the 1/5 Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders during WW1, unfortunately it appears that his military details were part of the 70% of documentation destroyed in the blitz in WW2, so any info I have is passed down via the family.
The 1 in the 1/5 refers to the fact that this territorial battalion was a 1st line battalion ie always destined for front line duties, whereas 2/5  was a 2nd line battalion used for other duties and as reserves for the 1st line.
I would recommend two very interesting books relating to the time your husbands grandfather WW1 experiences, both show what an absolutely terrible time he and his army comrades endured , a fact many people do not know about, as the eastern theatre of operations was labelled a "cushy billet" by those fighting on the western front , on the basis that it was sunny and on not trench warfare(incorrect).
The first book is Forgotten Soldiers of the First World War  by David R Woodward and the second is the history of his division from Gallipoli to the end of the war on the western front, this is simply called  Fifty Second (Lowland) Division 1914-1918 written in 1922 by Lieutenant R.R. Thomson.

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Re: 1/5 Argyll & Suthd. Highlanders question
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 19 May 15 14:31 BST (UK) »
ceud mile taing 'son sin / 100,000 thanks for that.
that was really helpful info and advice, dduncan  :) 
at one point ages ago, i wrote to Edinburgh castle and they informed me that the 1/5 were never involved in the Dardanelles!!   but i've since been reassured that they indeed were!
I'll go and chase down these books  :-)

tioraidh an-drast' / bye for now

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Re: 1/5 Argyll & Suthd. Highlanders question
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 20 May 15 23:07 BST (UK) »
The 1/5 A&SH were incorporated into the Highland Light Infantry in 1915, prior to being sent to the Dardanelles ,the HLI in turn were renamed the 157 Brigade which was part of the 52nd Lowland Division, this may have masked the involvement of the 1/5 in the campaign.
The books I have recommended will explain this much better than I can.
Please note that Forgotten Soldiers is a book of letters from contemporaries of our forbears and not specifically about the the 1/5 or 52 Division.None of the letters incorporated actually comes from members of the 1/5  but the narrative and letters describe what happened to them in the eastern theatre and the conditions endured, so is well worth the read.