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John Patricius Chaworth-Musters (1860-1921)
« on: Sunday 30 September 07 11:18 BST (UK) »
Dear all,

I'm looking for information on John Patricius Chaworth-Musters who lived between 1860 and 1921? What are his exact date of birth and death and where was he born and died, and any additional information is welcome. He was educated at Eton and Christchurch and went to work on the family estate at Annesley near Nottingham in 1867. His daughter Margarita married with John Joseph Baldwin-Young, from her I still miss the date of birth!

Thanks very much,

Justin Jansen
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Re: John Patricius Chaworth-Musters (1860-1921)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 September 07 11:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Justin

This looks like the birth registration found on FreeBMD:

1860 March Quarter. Southwell District. Volume: 7b. Page: 293. Musters John Patrious.

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I’m Researching:
CON: Chegwyn, Trayer.
DEV: Bickle, Chegwyn, Gaskin, Hill, Metter, Perry.
DOR: Butcher, Herridge, King, Pain, Palmer, Passmore.
GLS: Martin, Nelmes, Woodward, Young.
SOM: Major, Nation, Sims.
L&SWRailway: Damen, Young.
Wife Researching:
DOR: Burt, Gent, Watts.
STS: Bailey.
SAL: Dawes.
SCT: Raith, Smith, Edwardson. Mollison. Wilson. (MLN & SLI)

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Re: John Patricius Chaworth-Musters (1860-1921)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 September 07 12:20 BST (UK) »
A word of warning, which might be significant! Although the entry on the GRO index clearly gives the information I have shown, FreeBMD has added a note to the effect that the page number is not within the range expected for the district etc. You will be able to see this if you click on the word “Southwell” in the entry.

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I’m Researching:
CON: Chegwyn, Trayer.
DEV: Bickle, Chegwyn, Gaskin, Hill, Metter, Perry.
DOR: Butcher, Herridge, King, Pain, Palmer, Passmore.
GLS: Martin, Nelmes, Woodward, Young.
SOM: Major, Nation, Sims.
L&SWRailway: Damen, Young.
Wife Researching:
DOR: Burt, Gent, Watts.
STS: Bailey.
SAL: Dawes.
SCT: Raith, Smith, Edwardson. Mollison. Wilson. (MLN & SLI)

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Re: John Patricius Chaworth-Musters (1860-1921)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 30 September 07 12:45 BST (UK) »
Since the 1871 census gives his birth place and those of his siblings as Annesley, and their births are registered in Basford, I would expect JP's to be the same. It may be worth your while to contact Basford Register Office  to see if it was registered there.

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: John Patricius Chaworth-Musters (1860-1921)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 30 September 07 13:51 BST (UK) »
Whilst looking for the registration of the birth of your Margarita, which I was unable to find, I did notice that there were several children with the second name Chaworth registered between 1871 and 1897 in and around districts on the Nottinghamshire border and wondered if you were aware of them?
I then found that in the 1901 census (the family is indexed as Masters by ancestry! See Piece: 3143. Folio: 21. Page: 34.) the 3 eldest daughters shown, Margarita C, Elsia C and Ruth C, were said to have been British Subjects born in Norway with ages in line with birth years of 1884/5, 1885/6 and 1887/8 respectively.
According to the 1891 census (Piece: 2658. Folio 21. Page 36.) it appears that the children, Margarita C now shown as Rita(?) C were born in Aarnas, Norway. Personally I have been unable to locate an Aarnas and wonder if it was meant to be Arnes?

Hope this is all of interest.

Spiderboy.
I’m Researching:
CON: Chegwyn, Trayer.
DEV: Bickle, Chegwyn, Gaskin, Hill, Metter, Perry.
DOR: Butcher, Herridge, King, Pain, Palmer, Passmore.
GLS: Martin, Nelmes, Woodward, Young.
SOM: Major, Nation, Sims.
L&SWRailway: Damen, Young.
Wife Researching:
DOR: Burt, Gent, Watts.
STS: Bailey.
SAL: Dawes.
SCT: Raith, Smith, Edwardson. Mollison. Wilson. (MLN & SLI)

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Re: John Patricius Chaworth-Musters (1860-1921)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 30 September 07 14:01 BST (UK) »
This surely is highly intresting, still working my way through the data shown!

Thank you very much,

Justin

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Re: John Patricius Chaworth-Musters (1860-1921)
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Re: John Patricius Chaworth-Musters (1860-1921)
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 September 07 14:43 BST (UK) »
Nice find Sheila. I hadn’t realized that we were actually researching a family with Royal Blood! That’s got to be a first for me – makes a change from the more mundane Ag Labs etc.

Spiderboy.
I’m Researching:
CON: Chegwyn, Trayer.
DEV: Bickle, Chegwyn, Gaskin, Hill, Metter, Perry.
DOR: Butcher, Herridge, King, Pain, Palmer, Passmore.
GLS: Martin, Nelmes, Woodward, Young.
SOM: Major, Nation, Sims.
L&SWRailway: Damen, Young.
Wife Researching:
DOR: Burt, Gent, Watts.
STS: Bailey.
SAL: Dawes.
SCT: Raith, Smith, Edwardson. Mollison. Wilson. (MLN & SLI)

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Re: John Patricius Chaworth-Musters (1860-1921)
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 September 07 15:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Spiderboy…..

Yes, it does make a change….. :)

My 2xGtGtgrandfather was a gamekeeper and lived in the Annesley and Kirkby Woodhouse area, which is close to Annesley Hall, home of the Chaworth-Musters family, I have often wondered if he was gamekeeper for the family, but I have yet to discover that fact.

Lord Byron had links to Annesley and the Musters family, it should make interesting research!
Mary Ann Chaworth was Bryon’s first love,but she married John Musters of Colwick Hall, Nottingham and the “Chaworth-Musters” name was born.

I am usually over on the Nottinghamshire board, a few of us have baptism, marriage and burial indexes which cover the area, and there are a few for the Chaworth-Musters family but none that Justin is after as far as I can see, but we may see him over there soon  ;)

Sheila.