William Nicholson, Blythe

[martin mosley]

What can I say?

To go from knowing absolutely nothing about this family, to seeing each important stage of their lives, and all in the space of one day!

Heywood and Dizzifish, you are stars and I only wish I could be of help to you at some stage.

Am now in the process of updating my databases.

Many thanks
Martin

[Dizzifish]

Hi Martin,

You are welcome…..

Just to add to Heywoods find of Edward’s marriage to Frances Fisher,

Marriage at Clarborough;
Edward Nicholson & Frances Fisher – 30th Nov 1837

The Worksop & Clarborough marriages I could double check the detail’s for at my local library, possibly sometime next week if that helps?

Sheila.

[martin mosley]

...Everything helps, without wishing to overload your no doubt already busy schedules.

Thanks again
Martin

[martin mosley]

Looks like Elizabeth Battersby was Williams mother, another colleague has come to the same conclusion. It would appear we are all on the same track!

[Dizzifish]

Hi Martin,

Yes.......

That what I was implying on reply 7,

Marriage at Blyth
Edward Nicholson & Elizabeth  BATTERSBY – 22nd May 1820

I also found this baptism, the only one for parents Edward & Frances but I haven't seen the census to help confirm it.

Baptism at Blyth - 10th March 1847
George Nicholson, parents Edward & Frances, fathers occupation - Farming Man, Abode, Barnby Moor.

Regards

Sheila.

[martin mosley]

Ok, now getting into the detail!

I am sorry if I'm becoming a pain, but I notice that there are two baptisms in 1863, Oct for Mary, and Dec for Sarah. There are also two on Christmas day 1869 (that could be logical, either twins or a 'bulk' baptism)

However it seems strange to baptise two children within three months of each other... or does it?

Were they twins? Was one ill and baptised in a hurry?

This game always results in more questions than answers.

[Dizzifish]

Hi Martin,

Here is an update…

As well as the above George, these were the other children of Edward & Frances, my fault for not checking for other name variations of Frances.

Parents Edward & Fanny Nicholson – Abode Barnby Moor.
Baptised at Blyth
Mary, 4th Feb 1838 – fathers occupation, Farmer.
Fanny, 19th Jan 1840 - fathers occupation, Labourer.
Abraham, 13th Nov 1842 -  fathers occupation, Labourer.
Georgiana, 31st July 1853 - fathers occupation, Labourer.

Looked at the 1851;
HO107; Piece: 2121; Folio: 127; Page: 1 = Barnby Moor, Nottinghamshire.
Edward Nicholson,Head, M, aged 56,  Farm Bailiff, born Ordsall, Notts
Frances Nicholson, wife, aged 38, born Lincoln.
Mary, daug, age 13, scholar, born Barnby Moor
Fanny, daug, age 11, scholar, born Barnby Moor
Abraham, son, age 8, born Barnby Moor
George, son, age 4, born Barnby Moor
William Andrews & Thomas Olivant , Ag Labs


The NFHS index doesn’t cover Ordsall, but the IGI does C060531
EDWARD NICKOLSON born 02 NOV 1794   Ordsall, Nottingham parents John & Sarah.


Sheila.

Ps
I don't know about the baptism being 3 months apart but I have had some odd things like that myself, in one parish they didn't have a vicar for a while and then you find dozens baptised at a time.

[heywood]

my goodness - look what happens when you go out!
Isn't it amazing what can be found with friends and technology that would have taken months of visits etc! Superb work Sheila.
It's great to see it all taking shape for you Martin.

Re the two baptisms - Mary doesn't appear on the 1871 census.
There is a birth - December quarter 1861 and a death December quarter 1863.
There is a birth for Sarah - September quarter 1863.

So it may be that Mary was sick and baptised and then Sarah is born around the same time. It would be worth checking parish records if possible for baptism/ funeral Mary and baptism of Sarah. Although still odd why they didn't have both baptisms together.

The census ages and baptism ages don't always tie up for the other children- not baptised as infants perhaps.

best wishes
heywood

[heywood]

just for the sheer heck of it (and I do like to account for 'visitors' - I have amended the 1871 entry re Ann Bartrop- she was born Ordsall. (Nicholsons?)

1861 RG9; Piece: 2416; Folio: 30; Page: 18

Forist Lock Babworth
Abram Barthorp 64 yrs canal lock tenter b Retford
Ann 63 yrs b Ordsall
William Nicholson visitor 73 yrs one of the Brethon of Trinity Hospital Notts

(that's what it looks like for William- first two words have been overwritten with 'Clergy')
Ancestry has him as Trinity Hosp. as place of birth but it is a continuation of his occupation.