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Re: VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please
« Reply #360 on: Saturday 17 November 07 10:44 GMT (UK) »
The Ebenzer Bransgrove Saga

Darlinghurst Gaol Entrance Book
Ebenzer Bransgrove
Arrived "City of Sydney"1855-free,native of London
religion: Protestant
Occup Clerk
Admitted 15 March 1855
Trail SCC
Discharge 21 July 1855 Imprisonment quashed.
Same dates apply for Mr Poole except he was admitted 16 March 1855-occup Auctioneer

NEXT EVENT
NSW Police Gazette 1 May 1867
Benjamin Bransgrove charged with stealing a prayer book (recovered) from the Wesleyan Chapel,York St has been arrested by Jas Read Metro District Police,sentenced 6 months Imprisonment in Darlinghurst.
However when I went to the Darlinghurst Gaol records
April 23 1867
Ebenzer Bransgrove committed by D C Scott 23 April ,where CPC(central police court)stealing.Sentence 6 months -note transferred 9 May to Parramatta Asylum.

Parramatta Asylum Records
Criminal Lunatic
Ebenzer Bransgrove
Admitted 9 May 1867 from Darlinghurst Gaol
Transferred to common division  7 Nov 1867.
Died 6 Nov 1868 at 11.45a.m

No case papers for Parramatta for this time period.
Will try Court of Petty Session records next time.

What do we make of this??
Annie



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Re: VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please
« Reply #361 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 09:25 GMT (UK) »
what a fascinating thread

I have amongst my lot a Phillis/Philadelphia Heasman/Haseman/Neasman who was sent out to Oz approx 1816 on-board the convict ship 'MaryAnn 1'.
It seems Phillis was abit of a roughie and was sent to Tassie not long after.

I wish I could connect her to this particular Heasman family as wow what a wealth of info this thread is, however alas I can't.

My Phillis was born in Sussex around 1798 and was convicted at the Old Bailey in 1815 for stealing lace etc.
She eventually married a fellow convict in Tassie and when he died she married a muchhhhh younger man and moved to Victoria where I think she died.

She definitely led a very eventful life.

Congrats peeps on a great thread and keep it coming.

Troods
Williams- Devon to Vic Oz;
Holmes - Donnegal to Vic Oz; Hall Westmoreland/Kent to Vic Oz;
Shipwash - Kent;
Edwards - Lambeth;
Nolan - Ireland;
Grady - Kerry to WA Oz;
Matson - Nova Scotia to SA Oz

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« Reply #362 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Here is Walter Wilkinson's death cert

Annie

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« Reply #363 on: Wednesday 21 November 07 10:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Troods     :)

Thanks for that !    Sorry we haven't been able to help with anything for your "Philadelphia"  ...  but hang in there, you never know  ... this thread is all about the "unexpected"!

["Philly" qualifies as one of ours anyway ... a "HEASMAN" and "COLOURFUL" ] !

Cheers
Lu


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« Reply #364 on: Wednesday 21 November 07 10:34 GMT (UK) »
Dear Annie     :)

Many thanks for Walter's death cert.

Oh, that poor little mite   ...  I see Aunt Rachel was present, wonder if she was also acting as his caregiver ?

Lu

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« Reply #365 on: Wednesday 21 November 07 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Great work Annie  !      Thanks.     :)

MORE terrific info !    Ebenzer Bransgrove  =  "Bad Egg"  !

Do we reckon that Jane (Aylmore) HEASMAN "may" just have had a steadying influence on this "turkey" at some stage ?
There's a few years between crimes !

Wonder what he got up to, whilst residing in VIC ?    ::)

Lu 


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« Reply #366 on: Wednesday 21 November 07 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

I am valiantly trying to keep my Page 19 summaries up to date (they help me, at least, to keep track of this incredible family).

So, earlier today, I did add Ebenezer's tragic fate.  And poor little Walter's dc with young Aunt Rachel as informant.

Both so very kindly supplied by Annie.

Hey Lu - what about another of my scenarios?

I hate to suggest this but perhaps it was Jane who was the naughty one and the influence which led Ebenezer astray initially ... ;D  And perhaps she was the reason why he returned to Sydney (from Melbourne where he had presumably been with Jane).  And note that what he stole was a prayer book!  OK, perhaps he'd left the UK for Aus only because he had mental problems.  But, on the other hand, perhaps they developed after he arrived and because of his experiences? 

Perhaps Jane was even the 'bad egg' who led William HEASMAN astray  :o

Surely not :P
But remember that Annie said that Jane was a witness for the defence at the trial.

I mean, it couldn't have been - could it? - that Ebenezer docked at Woolloomooloo and booked into the Palmer St pub just at the wrong time?  And immediately (barely with time to catch his breath) and unintentionally, got caught up in the plot by one or both of William & Jane to get their gear out of the pub before the bailiffs arrived?  Who knows, perhaps he felt sorry for them.  Or perhaps he quickly took a shine to Jane.  Or perhaps William/Jane promised to waive his board & lodgings if he helped.  Or ...

I think that you probably can't have it both ways; one or other or both of the forebears - Walter and/or Jane - must have been a bit suss ...  ;)

JAP

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« Reply #367 on: Thursday 22 November 07 04:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,
Have been crazy busy, so while I have been ''watching' and having a little laugh at these relatives of ours, ( sorry great great great Grandma!!) I have not been participating at all. Now I have today and tomorrow free ( yeah!!!!) I thought I would take another look and think about things. Now, I had thought i would e-mail Laurie Turtle, a transcription agent, who  apparently takes just a few days to receive a reply from, and order a full transcription of the marriage of William Richard Heasman to Newby, in Wellington, NSW. Before I go and do that, I thought it prudent to check as to whether someone else has done this in the last few days, as I donlt want to double up on these certs.
So if any of you have ordered or have the cert. can you let me know please. If I hear nothing, I will order it tomorrow morning ( New Zealand time). My reason for ordering the cert is really just to verify that in fact this marriage is 'our' William Richard Heasman, and to see what is on the marriage cert. As it appears that when he died his parents names are not included in the  certificate, it is best to get the marriage and see what that says.
Bye for now.
Aumarire
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« Reply #368 on: Thursday 22 November 07 05:42 GMT (UK) »
Laurie Turtle, a transcription agent, who  apparently takes just a few days to receive a reply from,


I find Laurie very quick - unless he is away overseas - but as far as I know he got back from a trip late October & hasn't taken off again  ;D 

Trish
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