VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please

[tropicalj]

Hello  there  Aumarire

Welcome  to Rootschat and what a  wonderfull story  you  have told us

I  can  add in a  little  bit  of  information  that you  may  have allready  found

http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/Index_search.asp?searchid=42



Outward Passengers to Interstate, UK, NZ and Foreign Ports 1852-1876

This database is a searchable list of passengers travelling on ships leaving Victoria.

 Mrs Balli  aged 23  on the " Auckland"  in Jun 1868 for New Zealand   Ref month June 1868 page 002

  G BALLI aged 31 on the "City of Hobart" in Dec 1862 for Port Chamers  Ref Dec 1862 002

I  hope you  have  found  this  thread  to  be  as enjoyable  as  I  have  and we  haven't  reached  the end  yet.

kind regards Jenn

[JAP]

Hello Aumarire,

Welcome to RootsChat and this amazing thread!

Thank you for all your wonderful information.

Those are very interesting thoughts about George HEASMAN, birthplace Melbourne, who d in Emerald Hill (old name for South Melbourne) Vic, April 1870, purportedly the son of William HEASMAN & Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE, informant Peder ANDERSEN, 'A Friend'.

That still leaves the puzzle of the birth of Elizabeth Jane ANDERSON, 1871  at Coll. Victoria, parents Peter ANDERSON & Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE ...

Best regards,
 
JAP
PS Little George 'HEASMAN' was buried at the Melbourne General Cemetery.  It would be interesting if we could find out who else was buried in the grave (IF it was a private grave).
Similarly for Charles WILKINSON who was buried at the St Kilda Cemetery.

[Lucy2]

Further to Jenn's posting   ..... at same website is this :

HEASMAR (sic)  Mary A.  (26)

aboard "Taranaki"  to port of Hokitika - 11 October 1866

[tropicalj]

Well  now Lu   that  is very  interesting   wonder  who  that  one might be?

Aumarire   
do  you  have a copy  of  Marion Caldwell death certificate ?  curious to see where  she  is  buried and  just  who  might be  with  her?

regards Jenn

[JAP]

Hi Lu,

Good find.

I guess your thought is that Mary A. HEASMAR might be Mary Ann (HEASMAN) BALLI going to NZ before William's birth there ...

JAP

[Lucy2]

Hi JAP     

Mmmmm ..... Yes.   " Heasmar"   odd name (just did check to see who else "owned this handle"   .... only a very few, and I think possibly it is "Heasman", badly transcribed ) ?

Age fits (nearly)  with Mary Ann born England.

I think Mary Ann / Marion had "upped sticks", reverted to her maiden name, and was off  to start a new life !    Perhaps at that stage, it hadn't occurred to her that she was pregnant?

Will take a look tomorrow at fiche records at library to see if surname is perhaps spelt differently.

Cheers

Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi again

RE:   Mary Ann HEASMAN - aged 1 - listed as passenger (with her family) on "ALEXANDER"  - arr. 1841 :

I know she is shown as "aged 1", but, is there anyway of finding out if she was in fact born "during the voyage" ?

Lu     

[trish251]

Hi again

RE:   Mary Ann HEASMAN - aged 1 - listed as passenger (with her family) on "ALEXANDER"  - arr. 1841 :

I know she is shown as "aged 1", but, is there anyway of finding out if she was in fact born "during the voyage" ?

Lu     

From the shipping lists I have seen, children born on board are usually listed as such.  Forgive me, as I haven't followed your thread enough to have details of the mentioned trip, but if it was UK to Australia, by 1841 it should have taken 3-6 months max so if she was 1, I would think born before leaving.

Trish

[aumarire]

Hi again,
There was a  question posed as to whether I have Marion Caldwell nee Heaman, formerly Balli's death cert. Yes I do, and it states as follows,
12 February 1890 at 83 Clarendon Street, South Melbourne, Marion Caldwell, a married woman, age 43 years, died of Philtisis pulmonalis - 3 years ( bad spelling by this registrar,)
fathers name William Heasman, a joiner, and mother Jane Elizabeth Heasman nee Elmore. Buried on the 15th Feb at the Melbourne Cemetery. Where born, Victoria, in that state for 23 years and New Zealand for 20 years. At what age married etc.. 1st marriage, in Victoria age 18 years to John Yarly, second marriage in New Zealand age 21 to William Caldwell.
Issue and ages
first marriage.
James age 23 and William age 22 years.
( note that there is no mention of George, as he is not living at this stage)
2nd marriage
Marion age 20
Thomas age 18
Eliza age 16
John Edward age 14
Joseph Henry age 12 ( named after the below same named)
deceased
William Henry
Joseph Henry

So Marion's death cert indicates a birth date of 1847, and her marriage cert to Balli indicates a birth date of 1842,, but her place of birth is always listed as Melbourne, Victoria. Remember, we have not been able to locate her 'apparent' marriage to William Caldwell in 1868, to be able to check her age on that. I might do some more checking on this, as now I see all the various ways of spelling for her name, both her maiden surname  heasman, Easman, Eisman etc and her married name of Balli, Bayley, Yarley, I might double check my previous efforts,, you never know,, she may well have done the ''right'' thing and married William after all!!!
Off for a days work
Aumarire