ENDEAN Family

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Well I certainly take your point ...!  I'm not sure I would have made anything of that - if I had not seen the transcript previously - it would have gone down in my notes as a question mark .......!  But you can see how easy it was to accept the transcript must have been right, having just looked at it?  Maybe if I do get to Truro I can persuade them to get the original register out .......

[krisesjoint]

Boy oh boy would I love to go there....Green with Envy

Here is a Jeffrey. J's not as distinct but I thought it a good one to show how he wrote the ff..........To my eye it is the same.

Kris 

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Thanks for that - I agree about the "ff"s!
You may be green with envy - but at least you have the fiche at hand ......!!  Too long looking at these very old registers on fiche and I have to lie down in a darkened room!  Not easy when you are in the middle of the Record Office ...!

[chewiebeast]

To be honest (and coming from someone used to transcribing this stuff) I'm not completely sold on her initials being J J, there is just something not quite right about it. I can see why it may have been transcribed as a 'D' though if this is the case, its written a little clumsily - plausible given the slightly scruffy calligraphy. the end is defintely 'ffaril' theres no way its Jeffery. I think we need also bear in mind a lot of names back then have since gone extinct, and there were some doozies way back when!
It could be a J, but I'd hate to choose between that and a D - its the tail on the letters, one sweeps in a narrow tail, the other is a thicker, sharper stroke, I'm glad the vicars in the parishes I cover as OPC had neater handwriting!
regards
Damien

[krisesjoint]

I tell you what Damien, I may have to eat my words here. You may well be right.  Yesterday I wouldn't have given tuppence for it being a D. Nothing like the D in December, which are clearly D's. I was convinced it was a J. Saw what the transcriptions said but was sure they were wrong and what I was looking at was J and ff. Sitting here all morning photographing the reader and studying, I tell you what where he uses a D in a persons name it is very different to his D's in December and very much like his J's. (sloppy as you say, no downline) So if it is a D we have Daffaril, another nothing name  hohum. I didn't really think it was Jeffery - that was the only similar looking name I could find, so idly wondered if Rector may have been having a bad day and had just entered it wrongly..........Kris 

[chewiebeast]

Hi
I meant to say, find a name that definitely starts with a D and compare it. Given what you've said, I think its likely to be a D. The OPC transcribed it as Dasparil, which I'm not convinced by, so will ask her to take another look at it - GOd knows I've been picked up on enough for errors like this!
Not good really - I took a look at the early Constantine records earlier and they are unfortunately far worse! My advantage is I have digital scans rather than fiche, here's hoping it helps!
regards
Damien

[krisesjoint]

OOHH Digital Scans = the mind boggles. How on earth do you get those? I dream of being able to play with these things on the puter. How much easier it would make things. You lucky devil. I am sure we would be able to work a lot more things out in these PR's if we could use the computer. With the early records the writing is oh so small (Not telling you anything you don't know  .........Kris 

[chewiebeast]

Hi
The advantage of being an OPC
We get CD's sent to us, thanks to a contract we've got with the LDS - they take months to get here mind! Can't share them however, so can't help you with them - contractual violation and all that
I meant to add before that the double F could be a red herring as well - double S was also written like that for convention, some sort of flourishy effect!
I got picked up on iyt when I started, since Sithney has a lot of Russell's, which I'd dutifully transcribed as Ruffell! I got picked up on it and had to change the lot! So it could be Dassaril - not that it makes any more sense!
You haven't found any more of her family at all to compare with?
regards
Damien

[krisesjoint]

That is very good of them Damien. 

At least we agree the two letters are the same...LOL. I did think of the long s. Unfortunately I couldn't find an instance of him using a ss to compare - though he does use a long s. Just felt it looked the same as Jeffery, the way the double letters join.

Kris