Thomas Butler

[judi2632]

Hi Annie
The record Im looking at is on Ancestry and in the record file

UK, Prison Commission Records, 1770-1951 for Thomas Butler
Portland Prison
Prison Records
1874-1882

On page 37

Thanks Judi

[Annie65115]

Ok, found it, and I agree with your reading of it.

[judi2632]

  Hi All

Annie I have just reverted to looking at my DNA and bingo. All the research you have uncovered with the Thomas Butler DUBLIN family have lead to a DNA connection in NY USA  with whom I share DNA at around the 4th/5th cousin match.

His tree leads directly to the Daughter Catherine Butler born Dublin 1846 to Thomas Butler and Elizabeth( Eliza) Carr ( Carroll) both of whom born Dublin.

looking at other DNA matches I have with this one DNA match when I look to see how many others we both share DNA with there are 9 other people we both share DNA with.

The Thomas Butler born 1797 c Dublin that you found and researched yesterday emigrated after the UK 1861 census to NY USA with daughters Catherine Butler born 1846  and Mary Ann Driscoll nee Butler

I think you may have just cracked the Brickwall

Now more research to follow confirm and try to link up the other DNA matches

Many many thanks

Judi

 

[Annie65115]

whooo! Merry Xmas!!   

I wondered where they'd all gone after 1861 as the only burial I could see was Sarah's (previous page). I wondered if they'd gone back to Ireland - I didn't think of them going further afield (and I no longer have the most expensive ancestry sub to look at international records).

So glad that you feel we've cracked it!

[Annie65115]

BTW I've come across other Irish "immigrants" into the Midlands who became FWKs. I wondered why this should be so and discovered that whilst FWK was principally a trade of the Midlands (Leic, Derby and parts of Notts though of course lace making and bleaching was big in Notts as well), there was also a focus of FWK in the Dublin area