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Re: probably a silly question, but...
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 25 October 07 23:37 BST (UK) »
Judy,

The photo is pre-1920. In the main Cavalry, Artillery, and ASC wore lanyards. At this period, in the infantry, generally the transport section wore lanyards as they worked with horses and were issued a clasp knife and lanyard. The one worn walking out, it almost became an art form of knotting it and blanco-ing it.

Well the Northamptons, and the Anglians (2nd Bn) there after have worn black since time immemorial...  (well at least since Gen Wolfe died in the arms of a Northamptonshire Officer...)

  :)I smell pork pies... Lanyards and stable belts, as a standard issue for all bayonets of a battalion, is a dress accoutrement that appeared well after the first world war, and a lang time efter General Wolfe hung his clogs up - and albeit not readily admitted to, was an idea borrowed from troops associated with equitation.

Hope this has been of use.

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Re: probably a silly question, but...
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 25 October 07 23:49 BST (UK) »
Judy,


Well the Northamptons, and the Anglians (2nd Bn) there after have worn black since time immemorial...  (well at least since Gen Wolfe died in the arms of a Northamptonshire Officer...)

  :)I smell pork pies... Lanyards and stable belts, as a standard issue for all bayonets of a battalion, is a dress accoutrement that appeared well after the first world war, and a lang time efter General Wolfe hung his clogs up - and albeit not readily admitted to, was an idea borrowed from troops associated with equitation.

Hope this has been of use.

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 :o :o :o :o :P :P :P :P

Porky pies???

My bottom! ::)

The key bits are "....wore black since Gen Wolfe died in the arms of a Northamptonshire officer...."

The hats, badge backings, AOS stripe, and lanyards were worn by the Regt for many many years...All in memory of Wolfe....

 8)

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Re: probably a silly question, but...
« Reply #11 on: Friday 26 October 07 07:36 BST (UK) »
The Northamptons did not wear black lanyards as a dress requirement until 1937  ;).

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Re: probably a silly question, but...
« Reply #12 on: Friday 26 October 07 10:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks Tom!

It definitely was taken during the Great War. My great uncle was a miner in Civvy Street. I know he was awarded the  General Service and Victory medals and had
wound stripe. he was in the 3rd North Staffs, and was discharged in 1919.

The main reason I asked the question was because I had seen lots of WW1 photos, but couldn't remember seeing anyone wearing a lanyard before.

Meles - I can remember wearing one in the Girl Guides, also a million years ago!!

Enjoyed your debate about the topic - but please don't let World War 3 break out!!!  ;)

Best wishes, Judy

Best wishes, Judy :-))


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Re: probably a silly question, but...
« Reply #13 on: Friday 26 October 07 12:09 BST (UK) »
Girl Guides & Northamptoms/2nd Bn Royal Anglians in the same post, So which is the senior Battalion, I will go for the 1st Battalion Girl Guides, what do you say Mr Scrimnet  ;D

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Re: probably a silly question, but...
« Reply #14 on: Friday 26 October 07 12:31 BST (UK) »
During my NS in the Royal Signals,  we wore a blue lanyard,  nothing attached thereto!!!

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Re: probably a silly question, but...
« Reply #15 on: Monday 29 October 07 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Ditto                   1951-1953  ::)

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Re: probably a silly question, but...
« Reply #16 on: Monday 29 October 07 14:56 GMT (UK) »
Well folks,

I thought it was probably a silly question!!!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Thanks for all your interest!

Judy  ;)
Best wishes, Judy :-))


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Re: probably a silly question, but...
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 04 November 07 13:17 GMT (UK) »
During my NS in the Royal Signals,  we wore a blue lanyard,  nothing attached thereto!!!

Still do with number two dress.  I was also issued with a white stringy type one which we wore with combat kit but mainly to keep your knife on.

Stable belts! I've never really thought about them but it obviously goes back to the horsey days? Checking your vehicle was (is?) always called "stables" harping back to the days when you sorted out your horse I assume? I remember we were all banned from wearing them on exercise because it showed those nasty Russians which Corps we were from.  Good point but I think they already knew.
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