help please - Elizabeth Sarah Montague 1886

[suey]

Well done everyone!  I've been following and looking up but you beat me to it every time 

But can you find them in '81 cos I'm blessed if I can?

Suey

[DebbieG]

MMMM look what I found 1881 Porchester

Charles Force 41  commision agent born Bristol
Mary Force 32 
Charles Force 13  born Somerset Bath
Evaline Force 6  born Glamorgan Swansea
Lillian Force 4  born Manchester
Harry Force 1  born Manchester

[bearkat]

Can you see a marriage for

 Mary to Charles FORCE?

or

Mary to Charles MONTAGUE?

I'm struggling on freeBMD.

[genuisscuffy]

sorry - having probs with computer - so does this mean she was married before to Charles Force (so Force isnt her maiden name?) then she married Charles Montague and then George Richards - is there something in my family that makes the women all marry several times!!!! (not me I hasten to add ....yet!!!)

[DebbieG]

No I can't find it either - I have found Mary Force an unmarried cook in 1871 - the rest of the details match - so it doesn't look as though the eldest son Charles is hers.  I am going squared eyed now,  will have to give it a rest until tomorrow,  but I think we are getting somewhere

Debbie

[genuisscuffy]

Thanks for your help - night!

[bearkat]

Surely Mary shouldn't be a FORCE in 1871.

[bearkat]

Looking at the 1871 census entry....

It doesn't actually say that any of the children have the surname FORCE.  For the other families on the page the childrens surname is dittoed but not the FORCE family.
Although it does say they are the son or daughter.

[Richard Knott]

The long line of H's for most of the children in 1871 suggests a previous surname, or at least a family name.

In 1901 (RG13/1005/13) there is a Charles E Hermann Montague listed as living in Portsmouth with his family. Looking at the original the middle name is actually Hannay and has been added afterwards.

Birth
Mar 1868
Charles Edwin Hannay    Bath 5c 681

I guess this could be the one in the 1871 census (RG10/2482) under Charles Hanny - it could say Hanney on the original -  with the rest of his family including a widowed mother Alice.

Richard