Gill Family Kendal

[__tracy__]

Hi
    Has any one any info on Thomas H Gill B1866 Kendal Westmorland
i have an address 59 Adrian St Westmorland,Milnthorpe 1901 census (i think  lol)
He married Margaret B1863,and had 5 children
Edith  1889
Annie B 1892
Arnold B1897
Margaret B1900
and Winifred B1894  who is my g Gran that I'm trying to find
any help is appreciated 
Regards Tracy

[Tati]

Hi Tracy,

Do you want to trace them back?

Here's Thomas in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=23009079
RG11/5212 34 9
(shout if you can't open the link)

 

[Tati]

1871
RG10/5285 33 15 & 16
Kendal Kirkland, Westmorland
Elizabeth Gill, head, s, 31, Machinist, b. Kirkland
Emma J, sister ,s, 30, Fitter to the ?boot trade?, b. (can't read)
Mary A, sister, 17, Machinist, b. Kendal
Thomas H (no relationship given), 4, at school, b. Kirkland

Birth
June quarter 1866 Kendal 10b 649
Thomas H Gill
 
 

[Tati]

By the way: The 1901 address is 59 Adrian Street in Manchester Lancashire 

1891
RG12/3466 56 16
Lancaster, Lancashire
38 Prospect Street
4 rooms occupied
Thomas H Gill, head, 25, Railway Carriage Finisher, b. Westmorland Kendal
Margaret, wife, 27, b. Heversham
Edith M, dau, 2, b. Lancashire Lancaster

[Tati]

Marriage June quarter 1888
Lancaster 8e 1091
Thomas Henry Gill to possibly Margaret Ann Grime Margaret Knowles

According to Lancashire BMD, it looks like the bride was Margaret Knowles (marriage at Lancaster Register office)

I can see a Margaret Knowles in 1871, born Milnthorpe, living at Haversham with Milnthorpe. Shout if you want the details (large family! )

[__tracy__]

thank you sooo much you have done sooo much in such a short time.......i would love to no more if possible on Margaret and any of the family especially Winifred as she is my grandads mum.....just asking on the offchance you haven't come across  exleys or hallams that look like they might be related...just tell me off if I'm asking to much but you know what it is like lol.....once you find out something you need to know more
much appreciated
regards
Tracy
 

[Tati]

Sorry to say I haven't met any other families when looking for them  Can't help after 1901 either 

1871
RG10/5289 24 9
Heversham With Milnthorpe, Westmorland
Milthorpe
Robert Knowles, head, 53, Licensed Hawker, b. Lancs Ikerton
Ellen, wife, 52, ditto, b. Cumberland Keswick
Betsy, dau, unm, 26, House work, b. Yorkshire Seabergh
Ellen, dau, unm, 22, Hawker, b. Westmorland Milnthorpe
Thomas, son, 18, Tailor, b. do. - deaf and dumb
John, son, 16, Labourer, b. do.
Joseph, son, 15, b. do.
Martha, dau, 13, b. do. - deaf and dumb
Margaret, dau, 9, b. do. - deaf and dumb
John, grandson, 1, b. do.

3 deaf & dumb children! Additionnally, in 1881, Betsy is down as an imbecile 

Hmm. I'm wondering a little now - 1891 annd 1901 don't say Margaret was deaf & dumb 

 
 

[__tracy__]

.....lol.....So Betsy was driven mad in the space of 10 years(not surprised)because hat are the chances of having 3 deaf and dumb children in the same household.....as for Margaret being deaf and dumb would that explain her not having a job???just out of intrest what is a hawker???
your help is much appreciated;D
Regards
Tracy

[Tati]

Well in 1881 Margaret is a dressmaker - still deaf and dumb though.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=23022974
RG11/5215 23 5

It all ties in very nicely but still I'm surprised it doesn't say she's deaf & dumb later in life! Maybe you should get Winifred's birth cert to make sure her mother was Margaret Knowles. 

Here's a thread about hawkers:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,233556.0.html