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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 18 October 09 18:29 BST (UK) »
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The other barra' boys sold all kinds of stuff, clobber, cat meat, crockery etc...  :D

... and of course .... SWAG  (which meant Sold Without A Guarantee)

ALthough sometimes some of this was cheap, because it actually did "fell off the back of a lorry !" most of it was bought from reputable wholesalers and was "cheap at 'alf the price !!", mainly because it was produced in China and Hong Kong.

So whereas the 'high street shops' would sell trade-marked 007 toys and stuff
(yes it was in the 'original' James Bond days), we sold genuine 0071/2 stuff ;D

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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 21:10 BST (UK) »
2 of mine come from Stepney - does that mean I have cockerney blood?  ;) ;D
I never considered myself anything really - I like to move around alot, my family are from all over the place, and us 'English' are mongrels anyway!  :P
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 22:54 BST (UK) »
Hi again, Everyone,
SO pleased to see that this thread has jerked into life again after lying dormant and neglected for nearly 2 years...
Used to really enjoy an evening at Walthamstow dogs, but hasn't it had to close down now?  Surprised not to discover any Cockney rhyming slang on here, but anyway, up the apples and pears for me now and an early bedtime...
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 23:36 BST (UK) »
Yes, Keith, the 'Stow is dead and gorn  :'(

That's the thing about London, it always there but it mutates.
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« Reply #40 on: Thursday 22 October 09 01:07 BST (UK) »
An interesting thread. I was born in Guys Hospital, within the sound of Bow bells and the street where the hospital is, Melvyn Bragg reckons is where the original cockney accent comes from. I moved from London when I was 4 but stayed often with my grandparents in southwark so i kept my accent. My ancestors are in london, but only from about 1840. Two separate branches came from Bristol but their descendents met in London and married. Members of one branch may have been transported after the Bristol riots, another branch may well have part-owned the ship or been the insurance broker for the ship they were transported on:)
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 22 October 09 08:35 BST (UK) »
Strictly speaking, if you were born between 1941 and 1961, there were no Bow Bells to be born in the sound of  :)
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 22 October 09 08:42 BST (UK) »
Strictly speaking, if you were born between 1941 and 1961, there were no Bow Bells to be born in the sound of  :)

Why? Had someone nicked em  ;D
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« Reply #43 on: Thursday 22 October 09 08:50 BST (UK) »
No, they were destroyed by WW2 bombing, and not re-installed until 1961  :)

During the war, church bells were only rung to signal an invasion anyway.

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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 21:55 GMT (UK) »
A cockney is someone who is born within the square mile that is the original City of London,and therefore a true Londoner.