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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Oranges and Lemons say the Bells of St Clements  ;D

A Londoner may or may not have the distinction of being a Cockney  :P  :D
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 05 November 09 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Back to the original question...
My Father's family have lived in Southwark for the last 200 years, when my Grt x 4 grandparents married in the 1770s. The female line may be traced further back to the 1720s in the City and Westminster, so I guess this would make me a true Londoner.
But my Grt x 4 Grandparents are only part of the equation, as in total I should have around 64? Grt x 4 Grandparents, and they certainly do not all come from London.
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 05 November 09 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Very interesting, Dave,
And having recently got hold of a book about people in Pembroke at the turn of the 18th/19thC I've discovered there that my gt-gt-gt-grandmother Mary Ann WHITE was a witness at her brother Robert's wedding in Pembroke in 1812, yet by 1821 she was marrying my gt-gt-gt-grandfather Henry Pakeman GURNER in London.  One does wonder when she actually went there, and how a young woman from far-west Wales met a young tea dealer from Cambridgeshire in London's sprawl...
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 26 August 15 11:24 BST (UK) »
I'd always considered my family to be Liverpool through and through but I really haven't got much further back in Liverpool than about 1800 on one line only.  Like London, Liverpool is made up from people from everywhere who came to perhaps seek their fortune or at least try and get work.

So although I'm a mix of many counties and chuck in a few other countries,  I'll always be a proud  Scouser and a red.
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 26 August 15 11:30 BST (UK) »
…good to see this thread twitch into life again after nearly six years of silence, Beeonthebay!
And I must say, tying up my very first post and now yours, that Arsenal was most lucky to get away with a scoreless draw against the Reds on Monday night…
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 26 August 15 12:06 BST (UK) »
I am a Londoner by heritage as my great gran was born in Islington in 1889. She left London in 1919 when she met her second husband who was born in Durham. I am well pleased to have London ancestors.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 26 August 15 15:02 BST (UK) »
This is an interesting subject.

My parents always told me I had Dartford (Kent) in my blood as our family had been there forever.  Not true - my mother seemed to have forgotten her father came from Devon in his late teens and settled in Dartford.  Although her mother had been born and bred in Dartford, one set of grandparents moved around London and the Kent coast quite a lot but only touched base with Dartford to baptise their children.  Her other set of grandparents were from Brighton and had been there for about four generations.

My father was nearer the mark - his father's line had been in Dartford for a couple of generations having also moved around most of Southern England but his maternal line also came from the Kent coast where they had been forever.

So, now I don't feel quite so bad having moved away.   ;D

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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 26 August 15 19:28 BST (UK) »
So sad to open this with a reply from GenieColgan ... she's sorely missed .......  :'(
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 26 August 15 22:40 BST (UK) »
Lydart,
I imagine that that's the way of things, when a thread springs into life and then lies dormant for as long as six years in this case.
Genie Colgan looks as though she was/is a real London character, but I'm afraid I'm completely in the dark about what might have happened to her since 2009.  Do PM me to let me know, or let the world know (or the world who is ignorant of what happened to her) on this thread, please…
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