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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #27 on: Monday 01 August 22 19:34 BST (UK) »
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Ellen Fell, bap 4 Oct 1826, abode Temple Square, Aylesbury, father James, a lace merchant, mother Ellen.

I thought I had included this baptism in my first post.

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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #28 on: Monday 01 August 22 20:34 BST (UK) »
I’d seen the 1861 census you refer to with Thomas Tasker as head of household, but hadn’t registered some of the detail .  Ellen Tasker, who must have been Thomas’s sister, had a single child with her first husband James, but a further 6 children with second husband Thomas.  Her eldest son was called Frederick born 1833 who is the grocer’s assistant working with Thomas Tasker in the 1861 census.  It’s interesting that Frederick had an American wife and their first born child had been born in New York.

Frederick evidently took over Thomas Tasker’s grocer/corn factor business but by the 1880’s had returned to the US.

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Ward, Darby, Drake, Willmott, Langley

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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #29 on: Monday 01 August 22 21:14 BST (UK) »
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Was Helen Anna Tasker, bap 12 Nov 1822 at St. Mary Moorfields the only child of Joseph Tasker and wife Anne Sanger?

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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #30 on: Monday 01 August 22 21:39 BST (UK) »
I’ve not seen that baptism record.  Where did you find it?

Joseph Tasker also had a son called Joseph Louis Tasker born 1824, died of respiratory fever in Persia in 1848.

Have you found a marriage record for Joseph Tasker and Anne Sanger?

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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 02 August 22 09:23 BST (UK) »
The Helen Anna Tasker baptism is on FindMyPast

Public Ledger & Daily Advertiser, 10 Jan 1822
MARRIED - Jan 7, Joseph Tasker, Esq. of Baker Street, Portman-square, to Miss Sanger, of Oxford Street

Morning Post, 14 Nov 1822
BIRTHS - On the 12th inst. in York Place, the Lady of Joseph Tasker, Esq. of Fitzwalters, Essex, of a daughter

Morning Post, 5 Apr 1824
DIED - In Gloucester-place, on the 3rd April, Anne, wife of Joseph Tasker, Esq. of Fitzwalters, Essex, in her 25th year.

Have spotted Helen Ann in Hammersmith in '51 with Taskers (spinster cousins) - but not yet '41.

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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 02 August 22 09:30 BST (UK) »
English Chronicle & Whitehall Evening Post, 6 Dec 1823
BIRTHS - On the 3rd instant, the Lady of Joseph Tasker, Esq., of Fitzwalters, of a son

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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 03 August 22 09:10 BST (UK) »
The witnesses to James Fell's and Ellen Tasker's marriage, 5 Sep 825, were Joseph and Mary Raw. 
1851 Census
Mary Spooner, Head, Wid, age 66, Proprietor of land, born Darlington
Ellen Fell (transcribed as Sell), niece, 24, Proprietor of land, born Aylesbury
Thomas Raw, visitor, unm, 76, Proprietor of land, b. Durham

In 1851 Frederick Fell is with his Uncle Thomas Tasker at Bridge Gate, Rotherham

In 1851 Rebecca, Adelaide and Charles T. are still with father, Thomas, at Castle Street, Aylesbury. Thomas is a widower.

Ellen Fell (nee Tasker) was buried 1 Sep 1845, age 38 (YoB 1807), Aylesbury. The YoB 1807 is confirmed by the 1841 Census with Ellen's age rounded down to 30 (born 1807-1811)  Noted also Ellen NOT born in Bucks ie Aylesbury.   

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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 03 August 22 12:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this information.

I’d previously seen the 1851 census where Ellen Fell was visiting Mary Spooner.  Mary Spooner’s maiden name was Mary Raw.  She married Thomas Spooner in 1831 in Aylesbury.  Thomas Spooner died in 1839.  Mary died in 1853, a couple of years after the census was taken.

Mary Raw had 3 brothers as far as I can determine.  The eldest Thomas Raw was born In 1775 in Darlington and died in June 1861 in Islington.  In the 1861 census he’s shown as a retired linen draper.

Thomas Raw’s probate record is interesting.  Probate was granted to Thomas Tasker, his nephew.  Thomas Tasker was the grocer in Rotherham who had Frederick Fell as his grocer’s assistant in the 1861 census.

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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 03 August 22 13:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the update.
I had been casting around for combinations of Spooner/Raw, Spooner/Tasker and Tasker/Raw and had identified the 1831 marriage - reported in a number of newspapers eg.
Suffolk Chronicle, 29 Oct 1831
"On Saturday last, at Aylesbury, Thomas Spooner, Esq., of Bedford Place, Russell-square, London, and of Washbrook, to Miss Mary Raw, of the former place."

The appearance of these marriage notices triggered the following -

Worcester Herald, 5 Nov 1831
"MOST UNPROMISING NAMES - The London Papers announce the marriage at Aylesbury, of Thomas Spooney, Esq., to Miss Mary Raw. The Lady has not much improved her appellation by the change."

Note the distortion of Thomas' surname.