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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 11:35 GMT (UK) »
 Hi deetwin


I also found the inscription on a gravestone for a Christopher Penfold but he was too young to be the son of Thomas and Sophia.

In the Truro Cemetery Ref 1171 Christopher PENFOLD 17 Apr 1959 Age 58

.....dee

This is my gr uncle .... He is Christopher b 1901 s/o My William Penfold and Bessie Palmer, my Nan's brother.

deb  :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 12:26 GMT (UK) »
 Hi Debz... yes I think they are the parents .. I did not have the marriage date ...thanks for that  ;D

Henry James born 1790 14th Nov. s/o Robert and Eleanor

Deb.. john and Harriet did have children called Robert, harriet, and Henry ???


Yep ...John and Harriet's first child ... Robert bap~22 June 1832 = Fiance Smith
Sarah Harriett b c 1833 married ?? James  had approx 28 children
William b c 1836 = Dianna Sophia Hewson (8 children)
Charlotte b c 1838 = Henry Gess (8 children)
Elizabeth b c 1841 = Edwin Orchard ( 6 children)
Christopher b c 1843 =Patience Penfold  (4 children)
My Thomas  = Sophia Orchard  (11 children )
Alfred c 1850 =Louisa Small (7 children)
Henry c 1852  = Ocean Hughes ( 11 children)
Edward c 1853 = Rachell Holland


you probaly have this.....

Thomas James married Harriet PALMER 23RD DEC 1808 Kingsclere Hants

Could they be harriet James parents??


Thomas James and Harriet Palmer had these children;
My Harriett James b 1814 =John Pinfold
Thomas James b 1815 = Mary Jane Holland
John James c 1819
Eliza c 1825
Priscilla c 1816
Rebecca c 1830


arrgghhhhhh  ;D

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 12:35 GMT (UK) »
Genie ...brilliant  ;D
Where did you find this ?
Thanks ... :D


Possible issue of John & Harriet James.

John (Q1,1837,Kingsclere,7,81)
Sarah (Q4,1838, Brighton,7,310)
Tom (Q1,1840, Midhurst,7,385)
Charlotte (Q3, Worthing,7,544)
Christopher (Q2, Midhurst,7,414)
Alfred (Q2,1848,Lewes,7,116)
Henry (Q2,1851, Worthing,7,592)
Edward (Q1,1853,Worthing,2b,286)

Possible issue of Thomas & Sophia Orchard.

Fiance (Q3,1872,Redruth,5c,240)
Christopher (Q3,1877,Redruth,5c,222)
Nelson (Q1, 1883,St. Columb,5c,93)
Harriet (Q3,1891, Bideford,5b,492)

Genie

am not sure about the above Harriet in Bideford, Devon. I have her as being born c 1887  ???

deb  :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 12:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi, trying to summarise this up to make it easier to read:~

John Pinfold circa 1809 m.  Harriett James  b.1814 Warminster, 02 Aug 1831 Pimperne Dorset (source IGI batch M159791)
Children:~
Robert b.1832 m. Fiamce Smith Sarah Harriet
John b. 1834 m. married Charlotte
William b, 1836 m. Diane Sophie Hewson
Thomas - b.1841 see below
Charlotte b. 1838 m. Henry Geuss/Gess 1858
Elizabeth (Betsy) b. 1845/6 m. Edwin Orchard b. 1844 Ledbury m on 15 April 1871
Alfredb.1849 m. Lousia small (b.1851) m. 15 April 1871
Henry b.1851/52 Bridgwater m. Ocean HUghes (b 1851 Honiton) - see below
Edward b.1853 m. Rachel Holland

Thomas Penfold b. circa 1841 m. Sophia / Soffia Orchard b. circa 1846 in Q2 1866 South Molton Devon 5b 833 (source BMD)
children:~
William circa 1871 - see below
Defiance 1872c.
John 1874c.
Christoanna 1875c. - see below
Christopher 1877c.
Edward 1879c.
Soffia 1881c.
Nelson 1883c.
Elizabeth 1885c.
Harriet 1887c.
Missia 1890c.
Selina 1891c. bapt. 22.Feb 1891 Par Cornwall (under Pinfold, source IGI)
(source 1891 census)

Henry b. 1851 m. Ocean Hughes had a lot of children Betsy, Defiance, Orfius John Noah Vashti Albert Leonard (leonard m. another Sophia Orchard) sophie william & caroline



Charlotte Penfold m. Henry Gess in 1891 were in Battersea with children Mary age 16 b. Helston, Rebecca 14 b. Plymouth & Alfred 9 b. Helston

Christiana 1875c. Cornwall Grampound m. William Orchard s/o John Orchard & Sarah Q1 1898 St Austell (source BMD)
children:~
Edmund 1900c Calstock
Joseph 1901c Mary Tavy

william .......

hopefully this will make sense


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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 12:45 GMT (UK) »



Ooooh sorry to butt in Toni, but is there any chance you could change the yellow for a different colour, it just makes it so hard to read and you've done a fantastic job on the summary.


Barbara
Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.<br />Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden<br />Lamb In Bolton and Ireland<br />Grundy In Bolton<br />Blackledge In Bolton<br />Osbaldeston  ?? ??<br />Barnett in Islington<br />Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton

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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 12:53 GMT (UK) »
Genie ...brilliant  ;D
Where did you find this ?
Thanks ... :D


Possible issue of John & Harriet James.

John (Q1,1837,Kingsclere,7,81)
Sarah (Q4,1838, Brighton,7,310)
Tom (Q1,1840, Midhurst,7,385)
Charlotte (Q3, 1846,Worthing,7,544)
Christopher (Q2,1843, Midhurst,7,414)
Alfred (Q2,1848,Lewes,7,116)
Henry (Q2,1851, Worthing,7,592)
Edward (Q1,1853,Worthing,2b,286)

Possible issue of Thomas & Sophia Orchard.

Fiance (Q3,1872,Redruth,5c,240)
Christopher (Q3,1877,Redruth,5c,222)
Nelson (Q1, 1883,St. Columb,5c,93)
Harriet (Q3,1891, Bideford,5b,492)

Genie

am not sure about the above Harriet in Bideford, Devon. I have her as being born c 1887  ???

deb  :)

Deb,

my list was found on FreeBMD. I used the old nogging, thinking of a circuit that might be travelled.

One of the main camps was probably in Kingsclere, the are also the following born there:

John (Q4,1837,Kingsclere,7,84)
Emily (Q4,1888,Kingsclere,7,94)
George (Q3, 1842, Kingsclere,7,104)

Genie
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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #60 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 12:56 GMT (UK) »



Ooooh sorry to butt in Toni, but is there any chance you could change the yellow for a different colour, it just makes it so hard to read and you've done a fantastic job on the summary.


Barbara

happily obligied, now is brown!
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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« Reply #61 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 12:58 GMT (UK) »



Thank you Toni, you're a doll ..............     :-* :-*


Barbara
Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.<br />Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden<br />Lamb In Bolton and Ireland<br />Grundy In Bolton<br />Blackledge In Bolton<br />Osbaldeston  ?? ??<br />Barnett in Islington<br />Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton

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« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi

You are all fab ... Thanks Toni  :) , that must have taken some time , I appreciate it ...

I have been reading through all the links that Hepburn posted on page 1 ...they are great ...thanks Hepburn  :)

as I said previously ...It can get confusing as they all intermarry , another confusing part is that their children are born over a span of 20-25 years ... So as one sibling is getting married and having children  another sibling may have just been born..eg:
Robert s/o John and Harriet was born 1832 .... his youngest brother Edward was born circa 1853

deb  :-\
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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