1891/1901 Lookup Please - Jones - Completed

[English Daisy]

Hi Ricky

That does look like our Ellen!

Age fits with your previous finding and location.

Great work!


Thank you,
 
Regards

English Daisy

[ricky1]

Hi English Daisy

Its only a possible, but seemed strange that his wife came from Jarrow, so I hope its the right one, but dont shoot me if I is wrong

ricky

[English Daisy]

Ricky

It was "Jarrow" which convinced me! 

I must now find a map of England to see how far
Durham is away from Cheshire.

I wonder where they went to?

Not sure if they can be found on the Ancestry passenger ships lists,
which I do not have access to.  My g - Aunt Mary Ann Hayes was married to
William Jones brother!

I am sharing my Jones research with two elderly Jones ladies
in their mid-80s. They are so very happy to at last receive information
on their relatives from England!


Thanks again Ricky

English Daisy

[ricky1]

Hi English Daisy

if I is right and thats her, poor little mite didnt have a good start to life

1871

Edmund or Edward Calvert head mar 41 inn keeper Yorks  N.K
Fanny?       "       wife mar 32?                   Sussex  Chailey?
Mary E        "        dau u/m 8                     Cumberland Manritons?
Emily           "       dau u/m 5                              "            "
Ellen Smith   niece u/m 5 orphan               Durham Jarrow
Thomas Hill boarder mar 32 ship builder   Scotland
Ellen Hill boarders wife mar 24                  Sussex   Chailey?
Isabella Mucking servant u/m 23 dom serv Durham Jarrow
Mary Molinmoux? servant u/m 13                Staffordshire

living at Red Lion Inn, Jarrow, Durham
Rg10/ 5042
folio 37
page 19

ricky

[English Daisy]

Ricky

Hopefully, she is the Ellen that married William Jones because
his brothers and sisters from the little information I have
gathered so far have cared for their families.

It would be nice to see her in that kind of family environment.

Regards

English Daisy

[ricky1]

Hi English Daisy

If it is the one that married him, she moved a long way as its about 190 miles, must have been a reason to move Birkenhead

ricky

[English Daisy]

Ricky

In those days, that was a long move!

I guess she  met William in Cheshire.
We will probably never know!


Thank you
English Daisy

[kathb]

Hello, English Daisy
I think I can fill in some of the blanks that you had on Ellen Smith.  She is residing with Edmund and Fanny Calvert in Jarrow in 1871.  Edmund and Fanny are my great great grandparents. 
A mystery surrounds this couple and I have only just broken through the brick wall.  Bear with my while I outline what I know.
This is my maternal line.  I always understood that my gggrandfather was called Robert Davies.  I have never been able (until last week) to find his birth record or any of his children.  Thanks to another roootchatter I was given the plot of his grave.  My cousin then went and took a photograph.  Only last weekend did I look closely at the inscription.  He is named as Robert Edmund Calvert Davies.  I thought this unusual and traced back to his place of birth as shown on the 81 and 91 census, when he is Robert Davies in Birkenhead.  He was born Edmund Calvert and all of his children were registered with the last name of Calvert.  Edmund left Jarrow and his eldest son was born in Ulverston in 1875.  He then appears in the 1881 census with the name Robert Davies in Birkenhead.  I am sure this is how Ellen came to be in Birkenhead.  What I have not cracked is whose child she is - whether a sister of Edmund alias Robert or Fanny.  Between 1861 (after the census that year) he appears to have gone to Mauritius and this is where the eldest child Mary Esther was born as she is shown on a baptism record in Jarrow in 1863 aged 3 months recording that she was born in Mauritius. Other census data also supports this.  I can only assume that he left Barrow under some dark cloud.  All of his children go on to assume the name Davies down the line to my mother. I also know that I have the correct information as a Thomas Hill aged 19 is also in the grave with Fanny and Robert and if you look at the 1871 census you will see his mother and father residing with Fanny and Robert at the Red Lion in Jarrow. I will keep looking and see if I can find who the parents of Ellen are. If I do I will let you know.
This may be a very long shot, but I remember my mother telling me that a relative emigrated to Australia.  This is only word of mouth and I have no evidence to support this, but it may have been Ellen.
I hope this helps and if I come up with anymore I will let you know.
Regards
Kathb

[Gaetan]

Hi English Daisy,
Was indicated this thread while doing my research and wonder if you can help me.
I'm seeking information on a distant aunt, Mary Richards of Nevern, Pembs., who married John Jones in 1906 and went to live in Kerry, his hometown.  Mary had a daughter called Eunice who was illegitimate and remained in Nevern.
Any information on Mary (especially) and John would be very helpful.
Thank you very much
Gaetan