Goldsmiths of Hellingly/Stones of Hythe

[nelwild]

Hello Shane and Brenda,
i dont know if this is any use to you,you might have it.
I have a marriage between John Tappenden and Isabel Scamp march quart 1903 Canterbury.
She was daughter of Samuel Scamp and Faith Gains.
John was the son of William Tappenden and Susan(Annie) Baker born 1853 Canterbury.
Annie had a brother Stephen born 1848 and there parents were George Baker,general dealer and Sarah King.
John Tappendens sister Emily married William "Belcher" Rossiter,so another traveller connection there.
You may have all this,or it might not be significant,but i thought id throw it in just in case,
Nel.

[shaneooo]

Thanks Nel,
with all these bakers born around the same place and same time sooner or later were bound to make a connection!, lee  have you come across a james and margaret baker on your travels?
thanks shane.

[casalguidi]

There was a James BAKER (wife Margaret) living in Stelling 1861+ http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,353374.0.html

Casalguidi

[beeb]

Greetings to All.   Nel that is right, you jogged my memory, Roger Baker was looking for the George Baker and Sarah King ancestry, then suddenly it all kicked off and he was into the Scamps.   He had a website, but I haven't been able to find it.   It would have been very useful to Scamp researchers.
Shane thanks for DNA input, doesn't seem all that worthwhile yet.   I would be interested in my Baker side, but I would need my brother to agree to the test, he is 85, he is my only link now to our father's DNA and as his only child, a  son, is deceased with no heirs, he isn't interested in genealogy.   As my DNA appears to be, as far as I can understand, accessible through my sons and daughters I don't have to worry yet.   I hope I have understood and that it goes children's mother's mother and so on, but daughter's can only do mother's not father's because of a male's Y chromosome.    I've had a look at a couple of sites to get this info, but I might not have got it right as it seems pretty complicated.   It has been said that mum is missing some marbles !!!
Well I hope that a lovely Spring is just round the corner for you,
Brenda

[shaneooo]

Hi Brenda, i think the web site has closed down because the baker/scamp tree is now in print available to buy for £5.99 i think, i believe your right about the dna, needing male dna to trace the paternal history and female for maternal,
Wrap up warm now !
shane.

[shaneooo]

Found a second marriage for kezia goldsmith nee townshend.
kezia gouldsmith widower father william townshend, maltster to joseph king widow, postal worker father benjamin king, husbandman, holborn, london, dec 9th 1850, witnessed by henry gill sighned and rebecca barr x.
rebecca being rebecca goldsmith b 1823 hellingly dau of kezia and thomas.
rebecca marries william barr, batch, cook, son of john barr, brazier 7th feb 1847 bishopsgate, london. rebeccas father is thomas, occ baker.
witnessed by joseph wheeler and sarah ann hudson.
1851 cencus has. Class:  HO107; Piece:  1568; Folio:  14; Page:  21;
joseph king head 71 messenger in post office b shampton sussex
kezia king wife 56 b ripley sussex
george goldsmith grandson 4 born marelybone

[achooo]

 

[shaneooo]

Hi, sent you a PM.
shane.

[Tomscot]

Hi everybody,
                   This is heavy going,but I think maybe I found a link.
  Joseph Goldsmith, born 1696 Framfield Sussex
                               died 21/02/1748.
Rebecca Townsend  born 1700 Framfield Sussex
                               died  April 1780 Framfield Sussex
             Joseph and Rebecca were married on the 12/12/1721
                                in Framfield Sussex.
I have also traced my grtx3 grandfather Joseph's son Thomas Goldsmith born 1808/09
 Hailsham Sussex died 07/05/1889 Hailsham, he married a
 Mary Ann Elphick in Maresfield Sussex,they had 8 children
 one of which I have traced, a William Goldsmith b c1856 Hailsham Sussex. he married a Ann Avard in 1876. I hope some of this information will help.
  I also noticed in the the family records that my Grtx4 Mary Clark the second wife of Thomas Prodger was married to a John Roberts they married on the 09/08/1770 in Folkingham Sussex. Mary's name before marriage was Mary Clark,that is all the information I have on John Roberts, Mary was born in West Dean on the 02/06/1750.
Thats all I have at the moment I hope it helps.
                          Kind Regards
                                            Tomscot