Deaths, Annan area, FARISH - COMPLETED

[SC]

Can anyone help?  I am looking for two deaths, probably between 1841 and 1851, for a shoemaker Alexander Farish and his wife Isabella who left behind three girls, Mary (22) Georgina (11) & Margaret ( living together on Church St, Annan in 1851
Thanks
SC

[Reiver]

Hello SC
The following details are from a memorial which is/was in the churchyard at Cummertrees:-

Mary Charters died at Bent 19th January 1797 age 67 years.
Alexander Shepherd, her son, died at Brigham near Cockermouth 19th January 1809 age 38 years.
George Rule her son who died at Limekilns 25th July 1848 age 74 years.
Alexander Farish shoe-maker Cummertrees died 17th January 1843 age 39 years.
Isabella Rule his wife who died in Annan 16th January 1851 age 44 years.
William Rule their infant son.  Erected by George Rule.

Regards
Reiver

[SC]

Hi Reiver
Thank you so very much for the MI information on Alexander & Isabella although now you seem to have given me quite a puzzle to sort out trying to figure out exactly where Mary Charters, Alexander Shepherd  and George Rule all fit in!!  Isabella I believe was born in Cummertrees and is the daughter of William Rule & Christy Henry.  Presumably George is her uncle.

Do you or anyone know if there are any other Rule memorials in the Cummertree churchyard that might throw some light on this. Isabella, (b. 12 Oct 1806) had nine siblings and all were born in Cummertrees
Margaret, 9 Feb 1809
James Henry, 10 May 1811
George, 18 Feb 1813
Thomas, 14 April 1816
Ralph Henry, 27 May 1818
John, 16 Sept 1820
Robert William, 30 Nov 1822
Andrew Murray, 16 Oct 1825
Mary Ann, 12 Jan 1827

Isabella is my husband's GGgm

SC

[Reiver]

Hello SC
My interest is or was in Farish hence I had some transcriptions related to that name.

IF you wanted to specifically follwo up on Rule burials then it may be worth obtaining the published transcription of the MIs at Cummertrees (& Trailtrow).

See http://www.dgfhs.org.uk/dgfhs/pubs/pubs-ndx.htm

The primary way to wotk back though would be via the ScotlandsPeople website
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

There may be other Rootschatters who have access to the full MI transcriptions done in the 1960s and held at a number of Libraries in Sumfriesshire (Dumfries, Annan and lockerbie spring to mind).

Regards
Reiver

[SC]

Hi Reiver

Thanks for your quick reply.  The Dumfries & Galloway FHS website looks very useful and I'll certainly be ordering the pub you suggest.

Am aware of Scotland's People and that was my source for all the Rule births

You mention your interest in the Farishes, and I was wondering if you have come across Alexander, the shoemaker, before.

There is only one possible Dumfries birth/chr on SP, 28 Apr 1807, in Graitney or Gretna but none of his parent's names Robert or Elizabeth are handed down.  Do you think this is my man?  He married Isabella Rule on Feb 12th, 1828.
Regards
SC

[Reiver]

Hello SC
I'm afraid Alexander is not known to me.

I did try SP but found an Aleaxander Rule baptised in Torthorwald to a Thomas Rule and <?> Collins  (Her name from the image).  That was in 1808.   Born Dec 4 baptised Dec 8,
There is a smudge which makes it difficutt to read the mother's name.   Colliins/Collin may be whare she lived.   I notice that the ICI has submitted entriy for the baptism of an Alexander Rule to a Thomas Rule and Mary Dobie.  The dates match, the Parish matches, it is Alexander and Thomas bur I cannot make Mary Dobie out of the smudge.
Looked for marriageon SP  of Thomas Rule and <?> Collins but only found one for Thomas Rule and Mary Hope in Dumfriesshire

Did not find a Gretna baptism for Alexander nor parents Robert and/or Elizabeth.

More puzzles I'm afraid.  An enlargement of the smudge may help 

Regards
Reiver

[SC]

Hi Reiver

Thanks for trying to find my Alexander.  Will p.m. you on this.
A puzzle it is for sure.

SC

[Northerngirl]

Hi SC

I note your interest in the surname Farish which is an interest I too share.

There were some Farish family in the Meilkle Culloch area of Dumfries - which I think is over towards Dalbeatie.  I think a man called Farish has actually posted a reply regarding this.  My Farish connection were in the mid 1880's and the family emigrated to Ohio America - Clark county.  I can't recall at the moment the details of the Farish connection.  I wonder if you put the surname Farish into the search (posts/threads) facility to see if anyone has an interest would be of any help.

J.A.

P.S what I should have added was that my Mr Farish married a master shoemaker's daughter.

[SC]

Hi Northerngirl

Thanks for your post.  I am now leaning to the conclusion that the Alexander Farish born 1803 & christened in Gretna in 1807 is my GGGF who married Isabella Rule in 1828.  Their daughter Margaret (b 1842) who married a sea captain John William Duff of Maryport is my GGM.  One of his other daughters, Christina, married a Walter Little of Middlebie, Dumfries and she and her family emigrated to Canada in 1880, first settling in Flos township, Ontario and then moving to Teeswater, Ontario in around 1905

I still have many unknowns.  There is a marriage on SP between an Alexander Farish and a Margaret Coulthard in Annan on Dec 23, 1824 that I presume this is just an earlier marriage for my Alexander but it could be a namesake

I cannot find a marriage between Robert Farish & Elizabeth Nelson (Alexander's parents) anywhere in Scotland or England.

I have no idea if Alexander had any siblings. 
Does anyone have access to an early census that might help

Thanks
SC