william beedon

[kevin450]

first a big thank you to tati and frances, for this you lot are awsome and i am learning the way you look for threads, i didn't have the 1871 only got as far as 1881
the marriage cert has edward conway and ellen trass as the witnesses
you also have given me another way of spelling my grear, great gran mothers first name and where she is from at this presnt moment i am waiting for her birth certificate as she married as a smith but was formerly a lovell
i may write to the lancashire recoerd office for the certificate as i am led to beleave they have the original copys from which the GRO is copied may be a tyepo error on the trade

regards
kevin

[kevin450]

Hi Frances thanks to your info of 1871 i think i have birth of william beedon on the free bmd   beadon william births dec 1868 liverpool


regards
kevin

[Frances_mnb]

Pigot's 1837 directory has Beedon William, Arbory st under Butchers but by 1846 Slater's had Beedon William, parliament square - not the same place at least 100yrds apart;

Leah  also emigrated to Austrialia on the Glenmark in 1869  (Leah married a Mr Clark in Australia)

[Frances_mnb]

also as it looks as if Ann Kinvig was mother she apparently remarried a George Wagstaff in 1852 (malew 18520318) but he is buried Malew 19 Mar 1854 tho Ann is buried age 65 in Malew 8 Apr 1875 (she married as Ann Isabella
This fits in with Ann Kinvig d/o Thomas Kinvig and Isabella Curphy m Braddan 18090528 but the IGI has a baptism of an Ann Isabella Malew 18100506 but to a cath costean + thomas kinvig - no marriage for this pair (& not marked illeg) - I'm working in Manx Museum tomorrow will try to check this (actually I now suspect an IGI transcription error as there were 3 bapts in Malew that day and another involved a cath costean)

assuming Thomas Kinvig + Isabella curphy then Thomas was most likely s/o Thomas Kinvig + Elizth Clague bapt Arbory 17840905
with Isabele possibly dau of Peter Curphy + Margt Cubbin(Cubbon) Douglas St Mathews 17841228

[Tati]

Clinches it, I'd say! 

1861
RG9/2691 88 8
Liverpool, Lancashire
14 Prudhoe Street
George Harwood Wagstaff, lodger, 42, House Joiner, b. London
Anne Isabella, wife, 50, b. Isle of Man
Sarah Beaden, stepdau, 18, servant, b. do.
Wm Patrick Beaden, stepson, 16, Paper Ruler, b. do.
John Beaden, stepson, 14, Paper Ruler, b. do.

 

[Tati]

and guess where little John was in 1851?

1851
HO107/2526 127 31
Castletown, Malew, Isle of Man
5 Crofts
Isabella Kinvig, head, wid, 66, Annuitant, b. Douglas
Catherine, dau, unm, 30, Milliner, b. Castletown
Mayant, dau, unm, 21, Milliner, b. do.
Isabella, dau, unm, 28?, b. do.
Ann Beedon, granddau, 13, b. do.
John Beedon, grandson, 4, b. do.

 

Thomas and Isabella are at HO107/1464/5 5 4 in 1841. shout if details needed.

[kevin450]

once again a big thank you, i am trying to get my head around the info i am new to this ancestry and this is the first line i have followed
trying to get use to slight name changes ie. beedon, beeden beadon etc.
its interesting stuff i am going to get all the info together I may be back with some questions
one question i have is what is meant by the numbers after malew
I also found one the witnesses to william beedon and madonna smith  marriage 1868, edward conway lived in Cholton on medlock 1871 with reference to Martha and Elizabeth
once again thank you
kevin

[Frances_mnb]

18150102 = 2 jan 1815 etc (my personal database so dates are always sortable)

to add a little more I have put up summaries of the two early Beedon wills on www.manxnotebook.com - look up under Rushen

The baptismal entry for Ann Isabella Kinvig as reported on IGI is that which appears in the actual marriage register Thomas Kinvig + cath costean - however the next entry for same day is also mother cath costean so looks as if the parish clerk made a mistake (the handwriting and entries are very untidy with some running sideways others scrawled in margin - there is also a nearby entry that had been disputed later on as incorrect so quite likely the Parish Clerk was not on top of the job)

tho not part of your family there was a burial in 1854 for a George Wagstaff (from Mill St) Castletown but obviously not Ann's second husband (? a child, she was still of childbearing age - no age given)

[kevin450]

Hi Frances one again thank you
i found the will in the wills summary 1698-1799 Rushen
I am sending off for the marriage cert from the liverpool office to check if the was an error on the trade will let you know, then  going to sort the info out will be back with question i am sure
Your time is appreciated
regards
kevin