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Re: 1851/61 lookup please
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 February 05 21:28 GMT (UK) »
Sorry this was a duplication Mistyrose
Wiltshire:  Cricklade, West Knoyle.
Names:Newman,  Mead.
Somerset: Hinton St. George, Lopen, Cricket St. Thomas, Hornblotton.
Names: Brook, Cranton, England, Mead.
Kent: Lympne, Dymchurch, Smeeth.
Names:: Taylor, Glayzier, Tebbles, Newman, Idenden.
Surrey: Hersham, Walton on Thames, Great Bookham, Byfleet, Stoke D'Abernon, Thames Ditton, Esher.
Pyrford.Wonersh.Dunsfold.
Names: Foster, Newman, Glashier, Brown, Bond, Morum, Pantling, Mead.
Middlesex: Littleton, Shepperton.
Names: Newman

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Re: 1851/61 lookup please
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 February 05 22:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mistyrose
I think you might be right with your theory,it all seems to add up.quite often children were brought up by grandparents thinking they were there parents and never knowing the truth.if he was brought up in cricklade he probably thought that was where he was born if he wasn't told anything different.
Paula

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Re: 1851/61 lookup please
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 February 05 22:33 GMT (UK) »
It does seem to have the right feel about it but I wish I could substantiate it. I have ask for someone to look up who was living at Ridgeway Mill Purton on the 1861 census hoping that I might find William there. I do wonder how and when he got to Middlesex. I think he was working for the Woods family who owned the estate of Littleton. I wonder if they had any connections to Wiltshire? Mistyrose
Wiltshire:  Cricklade, West Knoyle.
Names:Newman,  Mead.
Somerset: Hinton St. George, Lopen, Cricket St. Thomas, Hornblotton.
Names: Brook, Cranton, England, Mead.
Kent: Lympne, Dymchurch, Smeeth.
Names:: Taylor, Glayzier, Tebbles, Newman, Idenden.
Surrey: Hersham, Walton on Thames, Great Bookham, Byfleet, Stoke D'Abernon, Thames Ditton, Esher.
Pyrford.Wonersh.Dunsfold.
Names: Foster, Newman, Glashier, Brown, Bond, Morum, Pantling, Mead.
Middlesex: Littleton, Shepperton.
Names: Newman

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Re: 1851/61 lookup please
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 February 05 18:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mistyrose
looked up who was at ridgeway mill in 1851 today but now reading your thread you already have this.
i tried looking for emily's birth on the igi but couldn't find it(hoping to find the father)or johns.also had a look for any mary's with an emily and william in cricklade or puton in 1851 but again no luck ???
i think the only hope is to find him in 1861.
good luck
paula


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Re: 1851/61 lookup please
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 February 05 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Hello Paula
I received a copy from the Wilts Record Office yesterday of William Newman Christening at Calne 5/11/1848 son of Mary Newman.  They were in the Workhouse then!! I went back into the LDS IGI site and got the batch number from Emily's Christening on 12/05/1839 at Purton
[batch No: C022983]. Surprise, surprise!!!
Mary had 2 more daughters both christened at Purton. Mary Ann Christened 16/02/1840 and Elizabeth 19/12/1841. So... as they were not in the Calne workhouse with her I went looking for them in the Purton area on the 1851.
I think I have found Elizabeth in Castle Eaton [HO107/1833 157 014] living with a William Smith and his wife Eliza and Mary Ann living [HO107/1833 156 003] as the niece of a Jonah Newman and his wife Catherine also in Castle Eaton, he is a farmer of 484 acres. The question is.... Is the death of Mary Newman in Calne in 1852 the Mary from the workhouse? [I have sent for the certificate]. If it is...... did William get sent to Jonah [or could it be Joseph!!] and Catherine.
It is getting quite intriguing. June
Wiltshire:  Cricklade, West Knoyle.
Names:Newman,  Mead.
Somerset: Hinton St. George, Lopen, Cricket St. Thomas, Hornblotton.
Names: Brook, Cranton, England, Mead.
Kent: Lympne, Dymchurch, Smeeth.
Names:: Taylor, Glayzier, Tebbles, Newman, Idenden.
Surrey: Hersham, Walton on Thames, Great Bookham, Byfleet, Stoke D'Abernon, Thames Ditton, Esher.
Pyrford.Wonersh.Dunsfold.
Names: Foster, Newman, Glashier, Brown, Bond, Morum, Pantling, Mead.
Middlesex: Littleton, Shepperton.
Names: Newman

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Re: 1851/61 lookup please
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 February 05 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi June
what a puzzle ???. was that trowbridge records office that found the info?
looks like your getting there!!
paula

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Re: 1851/61 lookup please
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 03 February 05 21:46 GMT (UK) »
By the way, Mistyrose, William does not appear to be in Littleton by the time of the 1861 census.  Obviously still travelling...

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 03 February 05 22:20 GMT (UK) »
Hello Paula, Yes I got the copy from Trowbridge but it was a BVI lookup on Rootschat that turned it up. Good old Rootchat you deserve a medal!!
Where do we go from here..... I am guessing now
I think Jonah should be Joseph he is Mary Newmans half brother. He is the son of Joseph
Newman the Miller of Ridgeway Mill Purton and Ann Collier of Cricklade his first wife. Joseph married Ann at Purton 14/06/1798 [I can't find a Baptism for Joseph [Jonah] but there seems to be a couple of daughters. Joseph [the Miller] then marries Jane Haskins at Purton 28/4/1806
They name two daughters Mary [I suspect the first Mary died young]. As to my William. I think when his mother died he went to live with his uncle Joseph [Jonah] and I Hope!! that is where I shall find him on the 1861 census..... I could be very wrong but fingers crossed!! Any chance of a 1861 lookup for Jonah [or is it Joseph]. June
Wiltshire:  Cricklade, West Knoyle.
Names:Newman,  Mead.
Somerset: Hinton St. George, Lopen, Cricket St. Thomas, Hornblotton.
Names: Brook, Cranton, England, Mead.
Kent: Lympne, Dymchurch, Smeeth.
Names:: Taylor, Glayzier, Tebbles, Newman, Idenden.
Surrey: Hersham, Walton on Thames, Great Bookham, Byfleet, Stoke D'Abernon, Thames Ditton, Esher.
Pyrford.Wonersh.Dunsfold.
Names: Foster, Newman, Glashier, Brown, Bond, Morum, Pantling, Mead.
Middlesex: Littleton, Shepperton.
Names: Newman

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Re: 1851/61 lookup please
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 03 February 05 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Hello Nell, Thanks for looking....... maybe he is still in Wiltshire.... fingers crossed.  June
Wiltshire:  Cricklade, West Knoyle.
Names:Newman,  Mead.
Somerset: Hinton St. George, Lopen, Cricket St. Thomas, Hornblotton.
Names: Brook, Cranton, England, Mead.
Kent: Lympne, Dymchurch, Smeeth.
Names:: Taylor, Glayzier, Tebbles, Newman, Idenden.
Surrey: Hersham, Walton on Thames, Great Bookham, Byfleet, Stoke D'Abernon, Thames Ditton, Esher.
Pyrford.Wonersh.Dunsfold.
Names: Foster, Newman, Glashier, Brown, Bond, Morum, Pantling, Mead.
Middlesex: Littleton, Shepperton.
Names: Newman