Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant

[ramani7]

I am looking for the burial place of Rev Owen Lewis, the calvinist methodist minister of Talsarn chapel in Llanddeusant. He died in 1870.

Can anyone help? I don't know the area but I would have thought he'd have been buried in Llanddeusant if there wasn't a graveyard at his chapel.

[welsh lady]

Looks like hes buried in Llanddeusant Parish Church
Owen Lewis Penrhw Ucha Buried 24/02/1870 age 82 in Llandduesant
Also a son Thomas Lewis son of Owen ,Abode-Penyrhew 12/04/1828 Age 3 months

Owen seems to have been married at least twice first  marriage
Owen Lewis to Margaret Davies in Llandduesant on 08/12/1813 and second marriage to Margaret Thomas .

Have you got the childrens baptisms ?This is where i had mothers names from.Let me know if you havent and ill post them up

Welsh Lady

[ramani7]

Thanks very much for this. What is your source for the burial record?

I have the baptisms of his children and noticed there were two different surnames for the mothers but having studied the order of births I wonder if it is the same woman as in 1816 she is listed as David, then in 1819 it is Thomas, in 1821 it is David again, in 1823 it is Davis, and in 1826, 1828, 1829 and 1831 it is Thomas. Perhaps she was a widow when she married Owen? I have ordered the films via the LDS so will check it out.

Was his wife buried with him?  And do you know what Ucha means? His house or farm was called Penyrhiw.

I don't have his marriage, thanks for this. Does it give any more detail?

Thank you

Ramani7

[welsh lady]

Carmarthenshire Burial Index

Yes noticed that with the children very strange i can see it being a misspelling between Davies and David as this happens a lot the Thomas is stranger and yes see what you mean if the first lot were Davies then Thomas it would make sense.But it seems to interchange.

The only other details youll get from the marriage this early is the witnesses.I havent got those details

Welsh Lady

[welsh lady]

Forgot the other part if i remember correctly Ucha is from Uchaf which generally means Upper or Higher /Highest.
Have emailed someone on Owen Lewis baptism will get back to you if i find anything.

Welsh Lady

[ramani7]

Thank you welsh lady, much appreciated.

[welsh lady]

Had a reply off a very kind lady who does look ups and this is what she found.Remember the Patronymic(think ive spelt it right) naming pattern was relevant then
Owen son of David Lewis Howel on 11th Nov 1788.Someone else has apparently also researched this line and they have come to the same conclusion this is the right Owen Lewis.I will see if i can get contact details for you and put you in touch

Welsh Lady

[ramani7]

Hi Welsh Lady

Thanks very much for all your trouble. Is this date his birth or christening date? I assume it was in Llanddeusant.  Going to look up the Patronymic naming pattern now, I think I have seen some links to it somewhere.

Ramani

[welsh lady]

This is his christening in Llandduesant.If you send me a PM with your email address  i will forward it to the lady who did the look up see if she will pass it on to the lady who is also researching this line.

Welsh Lady