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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Di!!  :o :o :o

I think you take the prize!  ;D

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 09:23 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there

I  myself  have  as yet  no  convicts   :'(

but  my  latyest grandchild  is descended  from  two from  his  father so  he  is  lucky.

Now  I  see that William Smedley  is a  Parkhouse boy, poor lad  only  10 years  old,  they were Exiled  to  Australia  never to  return.  If  you  google  "Parkhurst  Boys"  you  will  find  heaps  about  them.  parkhurst  was a nortorious  prison  in England.

Some  of  us  folk  were  helping a  chap  with  his research  on  the Parkhurst Boys  a  while  back  I  will  find  the thread and  add it  in  for  you

kind regards JEnn
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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 09:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenn,
William was 14, his sentence was 10 years :)

I found this on wiki:
"Either before leaving England or on arrival at their destination, they were pardoned on the conditions that they be "apprenticed" to local employers, and that they not return to England during the term of their sentence. In the ten years between 1842 and 1852 nearly 1500 boys aged from twelve to eighteen were transported to Australia and New Zealand from Parkhurst Prison."

So I guess technically he is still a convict right?

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 09:29 GMT (UK) »
yes  he  was  indeed
regards JEnn
whoops  sorry about the age
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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 09:40 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear   :o

Me thinks I may be throwing all your theories out the window!

I have 17 confirmed (third Fleet onwards) direct line convicts and one extra possibility

and I'm also proud of every one of them.

Di

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You know, as soon as I posted my last message, I had an inkling it was you I was thinking of, Di ! :D

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 09:41 GMT (UK) »
I have 3 - but I know of many who have more - maybe not as many as Di!  :D

What's interesting to me is that many descendants in my trees ended up in places where there was no transportation eg South Australia and New Zealand, so even folk in those places can claim convict ancestry.



GRACE, HADLEY, ION,MURFET(T), SIZER, WALTERS, WISE - Tasmania,

BATTY, COLE,  GIBBS, GIBBINS/GIBBONS, GODDARD, GURNEY, HUGHES, JONES, LEE, PENNY, TROWER, WHALE, WILSHAW, WOODCOCK
New Zealand,

LEONARD, ROLLINGS, SIZER/SIZAR and many others - Cambridgeshire


BLACKBURN, CUNNINGHAM, DEAN, DOWGILL, GILL,HAINSWORTH, HUSBANDS, LOWE,  MABBLE, MARSHALL, MOORHOUSE, MYERS, PEARSON,PRESTON,  RAYNER, RILEY, SHOESMITH, SIGSTON, SKINN, TURNER, WARD, WILDMAN, WRIGHT

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 09:48 GMT (UK) »
Di!!  :o :o :o

I think you take the prize!  ;D

MarieC

Yes MarieC, I do have more than my fair share.   ::)

Hi Prue - Good memory - I think I have admitted to my sordid past previously here somewhere!!  ;)

I couldn't believe it when they just kept coming up as "convict". My poor dear departed grandmother would roll in her grave if she only knew.

These 17 are all from my Dad's side - and he refuses to believe it as well but they are all confirmed and accounted for.

I'm still trying for the last hope and he will be the first & last on my Mum's side.

Di
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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 09:51 GMT (UK) »

Hi Trish,
he was William Smedley, details can be found on this page here: http://www.convictcentral.com/ just type "Smedley" into the search box.

It says they were discharged upon arrival in Williamstown. Does that mean made free?

- Belinda.

I think so - but I am no expert - I had thought there were no convicts sent to Vic. It was about the time that  the Eastern states had stopped taking convicts, so UK sent them anyway - called them exiles and told them they were free as long as they didn't come back  ::)  ::)  - Your shipload sound vey interesting - worth a research grant by themselves  :)

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Belinda

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,186214.0.html

this  is  the  topic  that dealt with a few  Parkhurst Boys


Now  you  girls  stop  showing  off please  ... can't  you  let  me  have  one  Di ;D

regards Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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