1901 census

[annie 1]

Please help, any info about my gt granddad john smith in 1901 census.In 1908 was living at 10 Hopper street Dubmire   Newbottle.Also any info about this add please.     Menythanks.Annie,Doncaster.

[Michael Dixon]

Annie the Joker,

Looking for JOHN SMITH on C1901.....

add a few more snippets of info to stand some chance of finding him..... his age in 1901, or birth year, birth place, who would he have been living with at that time, names of parents, his occupation, etc..

Michael
Newcastle

[Ecneps]

Here's a John Smith in Dubmires, Newbottle (how lucky's that Michael!!!)

1901 RG13/4693 fol.80 p.31
Mary Street, Dubmires, Newbottle, Durham
SMITH
Thomas head m 56 Stone Mason  Haltwhistle North'd
Jane      wife   m 41                       Durham City
Lilian      dau      14                       Durham   Newbottle
John       son        8                           "               "
Edith A    dau       6                           "               "
Joseph    son       3                            "               "
Jane        dau      2                            "                "

There are others in other parts of Newbottle, will try to find the address you gave, Annie

Barbara 

[Wearsider]

Annie - Hopper Street was at Dubmire, which is a part of Fence Houses, Houghton-le-Spring formerly in County Durham but now in Tyne & Wear.  The street was named after George Hopper who had the, quite extensive, Britannia Iron Foundry there.   Hopper Street was behind Britannia Terrace which is still there.

Wearsider.

[Ecneps]

Bingo! 

1901 RG13/4693 fol.88 p.47
9 Hopper Street, Dubmire
SMITH
William head m 40 Coal Hewer Derbyshire Chesterfield
Mary Ann  "   m 33                    Durham Hetton-le-hole
David      son    12                         "     Newbottle
Mary       dau     9                          "           "
William    son     7                          "           "
Elizabeth dau    4                           "           "
Thomas   son     1                          "            "

10 Hopper Street
SMITH
John head widr 57 Coal Hewer  Newcastle on Tyne
Jane  dau     s   26                     North'd Whittingham
Isabella O dau s 23                    Durham Newbottle
Mary Agnes dau s 20 School Teacher  "        "
John W. THOMPSON cousin s 23 Coal Hewer Durham Houghton le Spring

Barbara 

[annie 1]

A big thankyou to Michael,Barbara and Wearsider.Info very interesting(and quick)But ? Will responed later to day and ask some more Qs.

[Ecneps]

Hi Annie,

Thanks for your pm.  I see that you were hoping to find Walter Smith b.1889 at the address, however, having had a look, Walter is from another Smith family in another part of Newbottle, Sunnyside!  They must have moved to Hopper Street by the time Walter married in 1908.

1901 RG13/4693 fol.60 p.39
No. 2 Sunniside North, Newbottle, Durham
SMITH
John head m 45 Coal Miner  London
Mary A wife m 43                       "
Mary    dau  s 19                  Durham Houghton le Spring
John A  son  s 17 Putter Coalmine              "          "
Wm.       "       16    "            "                      "          "
Lizzie A. dau   13                      London
Walter   son    11                     Durham Houghton le Spring
Earney     "      10                        "            "                 "
Joseph     "        6                         "         Sunniside
Arthur      "        3                          "            "
Ada       dau      1                           "            "
Edwd.   son     1month                   "            "
Ann R. Melkin visitor s 38                "            "

Would you like earlier census for this family?

Barbara   

[Ecneps]

1891  RG12/4113 fol.55 p.32
Hill Cottages, Houghton le Spring, Durham
SMITH
John head m 34 Coal Miner
Mary wife  m 32
Harry son     13  Scholar
Mary S. dau  10    "
John A.  son   7    "
William P  "    5   
Elizabeth dau 3
Walter    son  1
Erny         "   0 1month
Erny BOYDEN lodger s 19 Coal Miner  London
Henrietta SPEARMAN servant s 21          "
all except last two born Houghton le Spring  (although on 1901 John & Mary b. London)

Barbara

[Ecneps]

Think this must be the family in 1881, still finding out their birthplaces, although I've never heard of Messing, perhaps an enumerator's mistake:

RG11/4972 fol.33 p.12
John Street, Houghton le Spring, Durham

John Smith head m 23 Coal Miner  Kent Messing
Mary A  "    wife  m 22                        "        "
Henry   "     son       1                         "        "
William  "      "          2                        "        "

Going by the names of the lodger in 1891, wonder if Mary's maiden name was Boyden, do you have Walter's birth cert?
There's a marriage in Witham (Essex) for a Mary Ann E  Boyden to John Smith Dec Qu 1877 Witham 4a 635

Barbara