1901 census

[Michael Dixon]

Barbara,

There is a Messing ( or more)  in Essex !

Michael Dixon

[Ecneps]

Hi Michael,

Thanks, hadn't looked into it properly, that might tie in with the marriage in Witham district then, just checked and Messing is in that district
 (and still an enumerator's mistake!)

Waiting to hear from Annie about mother's maiden name before going any further back with this, there are some Boydens in Essex in earlier census...a Mary Ann in 1871 census right age born Messing ...

Barbara
 

[Ecneps]

Ok, bull by the horns, in 1871 there's a Mary Ann Boyden in Messing, in 1881 she's not there but the family now has a son Earnie who is probably the one staying with John & Mary in 1891...

1881 RG11/1798 fol.63 p.28
Messing, Essex
BOYDEN
William head m 52 Farm Labourer Essex Messing
Susannah wife m 47                           "    ===? can't read it
William   son    18  Farm Labourer      "    Messing
Ada         dau   12  Scholar                 "         "
Earnie     son     9      "                       "         "
Ada RUFFLE visitor 12 Scholar            "         "

1871 RG10/1694 fol.8 p.8
Messing, Essex
BOYDEN
William head m 44 Ag. Labourer  Messing
Susanah wife m 38                    West Bergholt
Mary A     dau     12 Winder in Silk Factory   Messing
Ellen     dau 11 Scholar  Messing
William  son  8    "               "
Laura   dau  5    "                "
Ada        "     2

Barbara 

[Wearsider]

Regarding 'Hill Cottages' in reply No7, is there any possibility that this could be 'Ewe Hill Cottages' which are at Fence Houses not too far from Hopper Street?

Wearsider.

[annie 1]

Hi wearsider,Michaelina Barbara.I thank you for all the work you have done on my behalf.Alto of info to look at,will print and read later.I have some more Q's for you later.I am going to get all my info together IE certs,paper cuttings etc.speak to all soon.

[Ecneps]

Regarding 'Hill Cottages' in reply No7, is there any possibility that this could be 'Ewe Hill Cottages' which are at Fence Houses not too far from Hopper Street?

Hi Wearsider,

The census page just shows Hill Cottages, as I gave earlier, so I've now checked the enumeration sheet and it's for Houghton le Spring and gives Houghton Hill Cottages as one of the places on the list, no mention of Ewe Hill Cottages

Barbara 

[Wearsider]

Thanks for that information Ecneps.

I have not previously heard of 'Hill Cottages' at Houghton-le-Spring and I have checked the Godfrey edition map of 1895 and cannot finfd them there.  I am thinking that this may be a reference to the cottages at 'High Hill Side' and 'Low Hill side' that are shown on the map.

Wearsider.

[Ecneps]

The full enumeration page might help you to place the cottages:

'Comprising White Lion Hotel, Golden Lion Inn.  Sunderland Street including Crulsons(?) Houses in the Hayne(?) Hall field, William Street, Edwin Street, Hirst Houses, Low Hill side, Houghton terrace, Prospect place, Houghton Hill cottages, Cemetary Lodge & the Rectory Hill Farm House'

as this entry for the Smiths came between Prospect Place and Rectory Hill Farm on the census sheet, I'm assuming Hill Cottages referred to Houghton Hill cottages

Barbara

[Wearsider]

Many thanks Ecneps, that very helpful.

My first guess about Houghton Hill Cottages was not correct.

Basically the census page is for the 'Sunderland Street area' of Houghton-le-Spring commencing at the Golden Lion, which is adjacent to the Parish Church and ending at the top of 'Houghton Cut'.  The Cemetery Lodge is the Lodge for  Houghton Hillside Cemetery for which there is an excellent website at www.houghton-hillside-cemetery.org.uk  The Lodge may possibly be shown on one of the photos.  The adjacent lych gate has recently been restored.

On further examination the Houghton Hill Cottages are shown on Godfrey'e map but not identified as such.  There were three reservoirs at Houghton Hill which is at the top of Houghton Cut that belonged to the Houghton-le-Spring Water Works and there are four cottages shown there. The water supply for the reservoirs came from Houghton Pit shaft.

Hope that this information is of some use to Annie.

Wearsider.