Author Topic: Only one name on same page on FreeBMD.  (Read 1134 times)

Offline Paul Caswell

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,674
  • Me in my natural state
    • View Profile
Only one name on same page on FreeBMD.
« on: Wednesday 05 December 07 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi All! I'm looking for some wisdom. :)

There is a marriage of William Stockley reference 1864 Q1 Wareham 5a 461 on FreeBMD. There are no others on the same page!  :'(

Has anyone got access to a differently transcribed BMD? I am looking for a wife called Elizabeth.

Obviously I could order the cert but this is in a distant part of my tree. I try not to spend money on research that is not in my direct line.

Thanks oh wise ones.  :)

Paul
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
Census information is Crown Copyright

Offline suey

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,843
  • The light is on but there's no-one at home!
    • View Profile
Re: Only one name on same page on FreeBMD.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 20:32 GMT (UK) »

Might be a question of waiting Paul  :-\  it just means those names are yet to be transcribed.

Do you have access to census?,  sometimes by process of elimination you can find the wife... if you have them together in 1871 you should have her dob and pob, go back to 1871 and look for an Elizabeth who fits the bill.  Not foolproof of course but a start.

Suey
All census lookups are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Sussex - Knapp. Nailard. Potten. Coleman. Pomfrey. Carter. Picknell
Greenwich/Woolwich. - Clowting. Davis. Kitts. Ferguson. Lowther. Carvalho. Pressman. Redknap. Argent.
Hertfordshire - Sturgeon. Bird. Rule. Claxton. Taylor. Braggins

Offline Paul Caswell

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,674
  • Me in my natural state
    • View Profile
Re: Only one name on same page on FreeBMD.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Good point Suey.

This is 1864. I think this has been 99% transcribed. I can only hope that the reference has been mistranscribed in some way as perhaps 4*1 somewhere.

Sadly there are too many Elizabeths, as usual.

Paul
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
Census information is Crown Copyright

Offline DudleyWinchurch

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,695
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Only one name on same page on FreeBMD.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 20:52 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked at the original index page yet?  If it's William's reference that's been mistranscribed you might be able to make out the alternatives and do a search on the most likely option(s)?
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)


Offline Paul Caswell

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,674
  • Me in my natural state
    • View Profile
Re: Only one name on same page on FreeBMD.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 21:14 GMT (UK) »
The BMD page is unreadable (to me).

An Ancestry search for the index page shows a mis-indexed image. There is one Stockley marriage in that index later but it is for a Joseph Stockley 5a 517. Am I being stupid again?

I have to admit I hadn't considered that approach so thanks for the tip for the future.

Paul
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
Census information is Crown Copyright

Offline Lady Di

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,424
    • View Profile
Re: Only one name on same page on FreeBMD.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 21:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul,

I had a look at the image Q1 5a 461 and you are right - it's horrible but I was able to see that it DOES NOT include your William. The names listed are for Gill - Gillard/Gilliard etc so no St..... anything.

I then searched for any marriages in the same qtr in 1864 Wareham with first name Elizabeth only (no surname)

Thank goodness there were only 4 records - three of which have either 4 or 2 records - all matching pairs.

BUT the last one has three records.  ;D

It is on Vol 5a, Page 463 and her name is Elizabeth Locke.

I have checked the original and it is transcribed correctly.

I cant find your William Stockley on any image but haven't checked them all.

Elizabeth Locke certainly looks rather promising at this stage.

Happy hunting
Di
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Paul Caswell

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,674
  • Me in my natural state
    • View Profile
Re: Only one name on same page on FreeBMD.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 22:08 GMT (UK) »
That is Extraordinary Di! Thank you so much.

I think we have a wife for William. :)

Paul
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
Census information is Crown Copyright

Offline DudleyWinchurch

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,695
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Only one name on same page on FreeBMD.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 22:16 GMT (UK) »
I've just tried and found the same solution from a different angle.

Having discovered that there are no "S" pages available for 1864 q1 (using the find scan option), I tried your suggestion that the ref might be 4*1 with no luck and then realised that there are scarcely any 46* pages. Only ones for Wareham were the complete set of 4 and the pair of two including the strangely named Betsey Elizabeth Linnington and, at 5a 463 the three names: Louisa Best, Elizabeth Locke and William Mead so concluded this was likely to be your Elizabeth.
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

Offline avm228

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,827
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Only one name on same page on FreeBMD.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 22:19 GMT (UK) »
I have found William Stockley's Q1 1864 marriage entry in the findmypast version of the full index.  It's a very clear page.

His entry does clearly say Wareham 5a 461, so the FreeBMD version is not a mistranscription.  (Though, as others have said, the pages attached to the FreeBMD entry are clearly not the right ones - Gillard etc.)

However, I wonder whether there was an error in the compilation of the GRO index so that in fact William somehow matches up with Elizabeth Locke on 5a 463.

It might be worth calling the GRO on this one.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)