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[Arranroots]

His death certificate says he was born in Birmingham but apparently this is untrue and I cannot find any trace of him there ( I got a birth certificate for someone that seemed to match but it wasn't him). 

Can I play devil's advocate and ask how you know it wasn't him?

 

[sunic]

The date of birth and the age was wrong and his marriage entry says his father was joseph, this one was William

[Arranroots]

Ah, fair enough then!

 

[sunic]

Ok.  I have obtained the marriage certificate for my grandfather.  We always knew him as Alfred Austen but he is shown as Austen Alfred Thompson.  It says his father was Joseph, which I knew and that he was the manager of a travelling fair.  It gives an address in Portsmouth (in 1922).  I have tried putting both variants of my grandfathers name into Ancestry and Family Search but got no results that could be possible.  My grandfather was born 8/5 in 1891/2/3/4.  Where do I go now?

Sunic

[aghadowey]

He still have been born in England and registered as 'male Thompson' if first name hadn't been chosen. On the other hand if the family was constantly moving around it is possible that they either didn't register him or else waited until later on to register his birth. Have you located the family in 1901 census anywhere?

[sunic]

Not yet, I'll try that now

[heywood]

Hello,
did you see this one:

1901 RG13; Piece: 2845; Folio: 109; Page: 6

40 Snow Hill Birmingham

Joseph C Thompson 37 yrs auctioneer b ireland
Lucy 37 yrs oyster dealer b Liverpool
Mary G 11 yrs
Austin 8 yrs
Winifred A 7 yrs
Florence E 5 yrs

children all born Birmingham

possibility 

hope it's not your earlier Birmingham one- still can't find a birth though

Family Search has the birth/baptism of Mary Gertrude - parents Josephi Thompson and Luciae Carroll Thompson - Latin so perhaps in Catholic Church

[heywood]

and there's a marriage on Free BMD for Joseph and Lucy- possible birth for Winifred but can't yet spot Austin/ Austen 

[sunic]

Hiya,

Yes this looks a distinct possibility. I thought the name Winifred rang a bell and had a rifle through paperwork and my Dad's baptism certificate shows a Winifred A.  It's in Latin but from the my very elementary knowledge I would assume she was his Godmother (Matrina fuit).  Maybe she was also his aunt? 

When I get in later I will keep searching for the birth and order the certificate if I find it.  It's not the one I found before. 

Sunic