John Wise B. Braywoodside Berks went to Adelaide S.A. around 1841

[Abiam2]

Thank you all again.  You are doing us a great service and we don't mind waiting!
Abiam

[Maddie]

Hi to all

Can I please come in hear & join with Abiam in saying a very BIG thank you to all who have helped out with this fantastic info on our Grt Grt Grt Uncle John.

Until a few days ago he was someone who vanished after 1841, suspected to have died    then suddenly out of the blue & with all you wonderful folks help, has been found, not just him but descendants as well. 

Many thanks again &  best wishes for Xmas & the New Year.

Maddie

[cando]

Hi

Found on the following link
http://www.ozburials.com/CemsSA/yankalillapc.htm

ROBERTSON, Annie, beloved wife of above [Robert], [illegible] 1916, aged 92 years
ROBERTSON, Margaret Annie, beloved daughter of above [Annie and Robert], who died May 12th 1909
ROBERTSON, Robert Indoe Mac, died 4 September 1902, aged 71 years

There is a headstone photo for Annie and Robert and the email address to request is on
http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/sa/yankalilla/yankalillagen%20.htm
- Headstone Photos

I have also checked the Yankalilla Anglican Cemetery online data and there is no record for a burial for either John WISE or his son  there or in the Yankalilla General Cemetery.

There are two small cemeteries at Normanville [small town adjacent to Yankalilla] but no burial record online for Wise. 

Interested to see what Dee finds at the SAGHS

Cheers
Cando

[twinkleberry]

Hello

My name is Heather Hobbis and I am in Adelaide South Australia.  For about 14-15 years , or possibly more, I have been offering free research for people,families etc. who came to Australia in the 1800's.

I saw your requst re John Wise on the Rootschat Board and decided to see what Information I can find for you.  The following is what I did manage to find.

JOHN WISE BORN  BRAYWOODSIDE, BERKSHIRE ENGLAND.

John Wise was aged 33 years, and single.

MARRIAGE

John Wise married Ann Wilson who was aged 24 years, and single, on 3rd May 1850 in the Holy Trinity Church, Adelaide South Australia and died 11th June 1854. The place of death is not recorded

WILLIAM WISE

Born 19th Febrauary 1851 near Meadows in South Australia.

ARTHUR WISE

Born 28th August 1853 in Parkhurst South Australia

ARTHUR WISE

Born 28th Aguust 1853 in Mount Barker South Australia and died 1952.

Son of John Wise and Ann Wilson in South Australia

OCCUPATION   Grazier

RESIDENCE  Normanville South Australia

RELIGION   Church of england

MARRIAGE

1894 in South Australia to Emiy Roebuck nee Fenton - Born 1869 in "Spry", England

John Wise died 28th January 1952 in Yankalilla South Australia.

John was a son of Henry Wise.

ARRIVAL FROM OVERSEAS

The Wise family arrived in South Australia 20th November 1841 aboard the "Orissa", ex London 26th June 1841

JOSEPH ROEBUCK

Born 1832 in Holm firth York England.

Occupation   -   Mechanic - Partizan

MARRIED

And Head of the Household

The above family resided in Armitage Bridge South Crosland York England

ANN  ROEBUCK

Born 1835 in Holmfirth York England

CHILDREN BORN TO JOSEPH ROEBUCK & ANN ROEBUCK

1. Miriam born 1858 in Berry Brow York England.

Ocupation  Woollen Cloth Weaver.  Marital Status - Unmarried

2. susannah born 1861 in Holm Firth York England. Occupation Woollen Cloth Weaver.  Marital status - Single

3. Mary H. Born 1865 in Berry Brown York England.  Occupation "Woollen Feeder" marital status as - Single

4. Ada Louisa born 1866 in Berry Bow York England.  Occupation "Woollen Feeder". Daughter fo Joseph Roebuck.

5. Emily Jane born 1859 in Berry Bow.  Occupation "Worsted Winder"
daughter of Joseph Roebuck

6. Janet born 1872 in Berry Bow York England   Occupation "Scholar"

MARRIAGE

Harry Winterbottom married 11th July 1881 in St. Paul's Armatage Bridge,
Yorkshire England to Miriam Roebuck born 1858 in St. Pauls Armitage Bridge.

MARRIAGE

Isaac Barraclough marierd 27th July 1827 to Adah roebuck.

ISAAC BARRACLOUGH

Born 1847 in england

Occupation  "Tailor"

Marital Status  "Married"

MARRIE BARRACLOUGH

Born 1847

Occupation "Keeping House"

Marital Status  "Married"

It may not be a lot, but I hope the above information is of some interest to you.

Regards

Heather
Twinkleberry)
in Adelaide South Australia

[Abiam2]

Hello Heather,

Firstly may I wish you a very Happy Christmas, although of course you have already had Christmas Day!

Thank you very much for this information but I think there are discrepancies with 'my John Wise'.

I have been given the date of death for John as 11 June 1854 you have 28 January 1952.  This would mean that his son Arthur who was born 28 August 1853 was born about 19 months after John's death.  Of course there could have been an affair!  But on the BISA the father of Arthur is given as John.

I have traced Emily Roebuck Fenton back to the 1871 census to parents Henry R Fenton b. Yorkshire and Emily Fenton B. Sussex with three daughters all born in Surrey and Emily is there aged one.

Also you have John Wise as son of Henry I have him as son of George Wise of Braywoodside Berkshire.

I am very much a novice at all this but I think you have followed Emily Roebuck Fenton as Emily Roebuck.  Do let me know what you think of 'my' facts and thank you again for all your work,

Very best wishes,
Abiam

[Abiam2]

Dee, Cando and everyone,

Some great success!

Maddie my 3rd cousin, discovered through Rootschat, has done a lot of searching on the web and found some wonderful information!  We now have photo's of the Parkhurst Stables, interior and exterior, where John Wise stayed when he arrived in 1841.

The area which eventually became part of Kungarilla, even Eyre's Flat is mentioned, of which I could find very little.  The area at one time was known as Dashwood Gully after G F Dashwood who we believe our Great,Great, Grand Uncle travelled with.

BUT, this is the best bit!!!

John Wise died in 1854 and Maddie has found where he was buried.  All we had before this was the date of death.  Below is the plaque commemorating those buried at the Tabernacle at Tabernacle Road, Victor Harbour.  And there  eighth from the top on the left is JOHN WISE 1854.  There are photo's of the monolith erected when the little church building disappeared in memory of the Rev Newland and even a sketch of the tiny church erected in 1846

I don't know whether this will be clear enough I hope so.  This makes up for having letters which are so faint that we are struggling to read them.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank those Roots chatters who offered or tried to do something with them.  Unfortuntely we don't have access to the originals.

Finally a BIG thank you to Maddie for her patient searching,
Abiam

[cando]

Abiam
What wonderful information - you must be thrilled.

Cheers
Cando

[deeiluka]

Abiam, that's excellent news for you.

I've just been looking at my Street Directory of  Victor Harbor to locate Tabernacle Road. It is actually in the area called Encounter Bay. (And the Harbor part of Victor Harbor is actually spelt without the "u".    )

I am wondering if there may be more information in either of the local libraries here.....there is one in Victor Harbor and one in Goolwa, which has an excellent family history room. Next time I am visiting one of them, I shall try to remember to check. 

.....dee

[Abiam2]

Dee,

It would be great if you could look in the libraries.  The thing to find out now is why and how he died so young only 40 with a young wife and two babes.  Must have been very hard for her,

Wishing you all a very Happy New Year,
Abiam