1841 non-Ancestry Census: Please help find my Parkers! COMPLETED THANKS!

[Josephine]

Hi! 

Does anyone have access to a transcript of the 1841 census that is not done by Ancestry?

I can't find my Parkers on Ancestry and I am hoping that some kind Rootschatter with access to a different site might be willing and able to take a peek and see where they are hiding. 

Here is what the family should look like in 1841:

John Parker, born abt 1808 in Canterbury, Kent
Elizabeth Parker, born abt 1805 in East Dereham, Norfolk
Susanna / Susan Parker, born abt 1829 in Market Dereham, Norfolk
John Thomas (or John or Thomas) Parker, born abt 1831 in Mattishall, Norfolk
Clementia or Clementina Parker, born abt 1833 in Market Dereham, Norfolk
Harriet Parker, born 1840 in Chatham, Kent


I do not have Harriet's birth record, so I don't know where the family was living in Chatham in 1840.  I have not found a baptism for her.  Her younger brother, Abraham, was born in Chatham in 1843 and I haven't found a baptism for him, either.  (Neither Harriet nor Abraham is my direct ancestor and I can't afford to buy their birth certificates.)

In 1851 and up, the parents are living on Chatham Hill.  I can't tell if that's in Chatham or Gillingham; it seems to vary.

I have tracked most of the descendants and I've got lots of marriages, baptisms, etc.

I really need to see the family as a group in 1841 because I need stronger proof that my John Thomas (or John or Thomas) Parker belongs to that family. 

This is the evidence I have so far:

-  My guy was listed as Thomas in the census from 1851-1891.

-  Thomas Parker's 1850 marriage lists his father as John Parker, labourer.

-  His birthplace of Norfolk goes along with the other Parker children's births.

-  Thomas and his wife are also living on Chatham Hill in 1851 (but not next door to John and Elizabeth).

-  It looks like he and his wife were witnesses to the marriage of Susanna Parker (who I believe was his sister).

-  The marriage of one of his sons lists him as John Parker. 

-  The marriage of one of his daughters lists him as John Thomas Parker.

-  He had a son named John Thomas Parker.

Thank you in advance!

Regards,
Josephine

[Annette7]

Have checked the transcription on British Origins - no trace of them on there either I'm afraid.   

Annette

[lesleyhannah]

Have you seen:

RG number:HO107
Piece:793
Folio:34
Page:6     
   
Registration District:Great Yarmouth
Sub District:Northern

   
Civil Parish:St Nicholas
Municipal Borough:Great Yarmouth
Address:Market Row, St Nicholas, Regent & Market, Great Yarmouth County:
Norfolk

I'm not sure, but there's a family of Barkers(?) including:

Mary aged 40
Mary aged 14
Susanna aged 15
Clementia aged 10

They are involved in the haberdashery business

I know it's not an exact match - but they did round up/down the ages in 1841. Worth looking at anyway?

Good luck
Lesley

[Sisterjane]

Hi

I had a look at the family earlier on that Lesley found and Im sure its not them as they are also listed as Barker in 1851 cencus.

Jane 

[Ecneps]

Hi Josephine,

Not found on findmypast or thegenealogist sorry

Barbara 

[Josephine]

Many thanks to Annette, Lesley, Jane and Barbara!

Do you think this means that they likely weren't enumerated?  Maybe they were moving around a lot at the time?

Regards,
Josephine

[lesleyhannah]

Hi

I had a look at the family earlier on that Lesley found and Im sure its not them as they are also listed as Barker in 1851 cencus.

Jane 

Knew it was a long-shot, but worth considering. You do often find a couple of kids staying with relatives - and they were fairly unusual names.

I've looked on findmypast, but can't find your family at all. Could they be abroad? I found one of my missing relatives in America, my ex's ancestors seemed to flit between Ireland and Lancashire at will, despite extreme poverty.

Otherwise it must be a mistranscription. Apart from Barker I can't think how you could mistake the name Parker - I wish ancestry provided wild cards.

It's so annoying when you know they're there somewhere!

Good luck Josephine. do let us know if you have any success.

[Ecneps]

Do you think this means that they likely weren't enumerated?  Maybe they were moving around a lot at the time?

It's always possible, having looked under lots of possible variations on the other sites.  Families do seem to have been missed off the census sometimes.

Barbara   

[hepburn]

Hi Josephine,
                   Abraham Parker Sept' qtr 1843 Medway    5 344  that's your neck of the woods...isn't it??