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Re: Bonar (Bonner)/ Toner/ McGettigan/ Devenny/ McMonagle/ McGinley etc
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 19 November 09 13:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi, While I don't have any specific information on recent Bonners, I was reading the 17th. century Irish life of Colm Cille last night and I happened on an interesting legend. I'm sure you know that the name Bonner (in the north of Ireland, anyway) is an anglicisation of the Irish Ó Cnáimhsigh. The word cnámh means bone. According to the account in the life of Colm Cille, the saint was once passing by an old tomb and saw the bones of a man called Connla the Smith, who had been dead for a long time. He rearranged the bones and prayed over them and they came back to life. This man then married and lived for over twenty years. He had children and his descendants are called the Clann Chnáimhsigh because they were descended from a man who had once been a pile of bones. I'm not suggesting it's true, of course, but it explains the name and what the Bonners in Donegal believed about their own origins. :)

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Re: Bonar (Bonner)/ Toner/ McGettigan/ Devenny/ McMonagle/ McGinley etc
« Reply #37 on: Friday 20 November 09 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Seanod....my dad used to tell me a similar tale but I had completely forgotten about it  :)

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Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan

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Re: Bonar (Bonner)/ Toner/ McGettigan/ Devenny/ McMonagle/ McGinley etc
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 03 February 10 23:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi I'm back.  I wrote to you last April and I said my McGettigan's attended the funeral of Rev Toner.

I now have a new email address and I am in a better position to get down to looking for my ancestry.

I see  nobody has come up with a connection of the Toners and McGettigans cousins.

I will be be in touch soon.

Geraldine. :D

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Re: Bonar (Bonner)/ Toner/ McGettigan/ Devenny/ McMonagle/ McGinley etc
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 04 February 10 01:28 GMT (UK) »
Welcome back Geraldine  ;D

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Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan


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Re: Bonar (Bonner)/ Toner/ McGettigan/ Devenny/ McMonagle/ McGinley etc
« Reply #40 on: Friday 05 February 10 01:14 GMT (UK) »
Dont know what happened but my error message states that body of message was left blank!! I will have to do it over again tomorrow.

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Re: Bonar (Bonner)/ Toner/ McGettigan/ Devenny/ McMonagle/ McGinley etc
« Reply #41 on: Friday 05 February 10 21:13 GMT (UK) »

Would it be possible that the McGettigan link could be through Peter Toner's wife Brigid ? - parents of the Rev
James Toner of Drumoghill ?

If she were McGettigan her brothers children would be the McGettigan cousins mentioned in the newspaper article of the Rev. James's funeral.

just a thought!


Tomby
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Toner Co Donegal,

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Re: Bonar (Bonner)/ Toner/ McGettigan/ Devenny/ McMonagle/ McGinley etc
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 06 February 10 23:33 GMT (UK) »
Here I go again.
 
This is a very long reply, but,
I will tell you what I know about the McGettigans listed below.
 
I know I have no information  on the Toners, but with the likes of HENRY, CATHERINE and others reading your page,  they they might be able to help us put it together.
 
1) Cousin   John McGettigan,   Killymard.
 
His father was Thomas, they are from Ballyare, Kilmacrennan, wife unknown, was she a Toner a sister to the Mother or Father of James Toner? 
 
They had about 11 children.

One of these children was John was my Great Grandfather.  He was born in Ballyare, Kilmacrennan. Co. Donegal.
Born in 1839 died 1908.
Married Mary Dorrian  of Drumlaghtafin in 1862, born 1842, died 1921. (her father was also a John).
 
They had 11 children. My grand father James born 1885 was the second youngest. The youngest Joe moved to Ballyshannon and had a shop there for many years.
 
John McG moved to Drumroosk, parish of Killymard, outside Donegal town.
Why did John move??
Looking at the Valuation for Drumroosk West in 1857 William McG was on the land. In 1860 Rev Fr. Thomas McG was in the next parish Haugh.  In 1868 John McG is on the land. 
He was also present at the death of a Charles McG, a widower, ages 91, a farmer of Drumroosk on 28 June 1869. Was he a relation, is that why he went to Drumroosk! Was Charles a brother of William?
 
2) Cousin   Patrick McGettigan   Killymard.
 
Son of John. Patrick inherited the farm in Drumroosk, from his father. Married twice, first wife and 2 of his children died in flu epidemic in March/April 1919.
He remarried and new wife, a yank,  reared his two sons and a daughter. One son  had the nickname of "Cisco".
 
 
3)  Cousin   Dan McGettigan   Derry. 
 
Brother of John. Living in Derry according to Census of 1901 and 1911. Bachelor. Cattle Dealer.  Sister Nelly/Ellen living with him. (The age discrepancy is huge over the ten years for both of them.)
     
4)  Cousin   Mick McGettigan   Derry.
 
Maybe a nephew of John, son of his brother Neil.  The only information I have on him is he owned a pub in Derry. Lived in 1 Anne St. Married a woman called Josephine. A still born baby died 29 Oct 1930. Michael died aged 56 in 1939.

5) Cousin   Neal McGettigan   Derry.
 
Neil McG brother of John. Married Mary Ann Devlin. He had land, I think through his wife in Ballymagowan and Creggan, Derry.
They had 4 children. Thomas, had a chemist shop in Strabane. Michael had a Public House in Bishop St Derry. Fannie did not marry, lived in 15 Chamberland St. Derry.
Annie married John Doherty they had 11 children. None married. She got land from her father.

6)  Cousin   Pat McGettigan   Ballarr.
 
Brother of John. Known as Big Pat, he married Susan Boyce. They had 7 children, this family is still in Ballyare to this day. One of his daughters Maggie, born 1897 married a Peter McMonaglel of Letterkenny. They had 7 children a boy called James McM was born Sep 1918 he was reared by Annie McMahon a sister of Maggie.

7) Cousin   Fanny McGettigan   Donegal.
 
A single daughter of John McG. Would have reared my Father Vincent and his brother Charles in The Mullens. Donegal Town. There mother, Tamar Gold, died on the birth of her 6th child. (big story her).

8) Cousin   Nelly McGettigan   Drumoghill.
 
Sister of John. See no. 3.

9) Cousin   Mrs. Gallagher   Drumbologne. 
 
No information.  But why is she included among the McG's?

10) Cousin   Bridget McGettigan   Killymard.
 
Daughter of John. Same info as no. 7.

11) Cousin   Mrs. Lafferty   Creeslough.
 
Daughter of John. Grace married Daniel, postmaster in Creeslough. Her sister Nellie was living with them according to census of 1911.
 
I hope you were able to keep up with all of this.  If you have any questions or information please contact us.
 
GERGER.

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Re: Bonar (Bonner)/ Toner/ McGettigan/ Devenny/ McMonagle/ McGinley etc
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 07 February 10 09:19 GMT (UK) »
8 Nelly would appear to be a dau of John - she was the housekeeper of Rev Toner and was with him in Fanavolty in 1901 and would have moved with him when he went to Drumoghill Parish. She was with her sister Grace in 1911 as you say.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901Fanavolty.htm

Susan McGinley dau of Michael McGinley and Susan Toner married 1. Bernard McGinley, Drumbologe. 2. William Gallagher - she was likely Mrs Gallagher Drumbologe

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« Reply #44 on: Sunday 07 February 10 15:13 GMT (UK) »

Mrs Gallagher( Susan ) from Drumbologe record is correct.
   

Her mother Susan Toner to my knowledge had only one sister , Mary, whom I have previously mentioned .
She married Hudie McDevitt.

If that is the case your great great grandfather Thomas's wife could not have been Toner.

If I get time this week I might do a check to see if there are any baptismal records on Peter Toner and Brigid's ? children.

I have to commend you Gerger on your work on the McGettigan's it was very interesting.


CATHERINE


Elliott Co.Derry, Ward Co.Derry, Quin Co.Down, Shanagher Co Roscommon,
Toner Co Donegal,