Eleanor BARBER - Keinton Mandeville

[JamesDMcBust]

trying to trace family of eleanor -  daughter of john barber, married to walter cox
looking for information on mother's side

[geniecolgan]

Hi James,

     do you have a date of birth for Eleanor?

[JamesDMcBust]

She was born in 1853.  I have a marriage certificate (1878) which supports this and also gives her father as John Barber, but of course no mother.  There is a birth record for Eleanor Barber registered in Langport in 1853 so all in all I'm satisfied that her name and dob are correct.  She and husband Walter had 5 children - Ada 1882, Louisa 1884, Beatrice 1887, Henry 1887 & Wilfred 1890. What I can't seem to find is Eleanor within a family unit on the 1861 or 1871 census records.  I will probably send for her birth cert eventually, but surely there should be some record of her "early" years.

PS she is occasionally referred to as "Ellen", nor Eleanor in the 1881+ census records.

[allibaker]

hi james
the 1881 cencus shows walter and ellen with a 2 yr old daughter ada.f.l making her date of birth c1879 not 1882
regards
alli

[allibaker]

sorry have checked entire parish in 1861 and no sign of this family.there is however a john barber and wife sarah living in keinton manderville in 1851 maybe this is the parents before she was born?? i cannot find this couple after 1851 maybe it might be worth sending off for the birth certificate?
i will be going to taunton record office next week i hope .i have written down ellle/eleanors details and will see if i can find her in the parish records for you
regards
alli

[Little Nell]

James,

Interestingly, this couple seem to live next door to your Benjamin Cabble (see this thread: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,275780.0.html ) and in this case Caroline!  The enumerator has put Hampshire as the county of her birth, but spelt the parish in the Somerset fashion. 

Nell

[Valda]

1871 census RG10 111 folio 100
62 Gloster Street St George Hanover Square Westminster
Ellen Barber 17 General Domestic Servant Barton Somerset

Barton St David is adjacent to Keinton Mandeville

The birthplace of Jane Barber in Keinton Mandeville on the 1871 census gives an indication of why the family can't be found on the 1861 census.

1871 census RG10 2394 folio 5
8 Church Street Keinton Mandeville
Sarah Barber Head Widow 43 Dressmaker Queen Camel Somerset
Sarah Ann Barber 19 Daughter Glover Keinton Somerset
Job Barber 12 Son Stone cutter Keinton Somerset
Mary Barber 10 Daughter Keinton Somerset (birth appears to be registered 1860 Langport)
Jane Barber 8 Daughter Cork Ireland
Henry Barber 4 Son Keinton Somerset
Ann Brooks 19 Visitor Queen Camel Somerset

Regards

Valda

[JamesDMcBust]

Wow - I'm impressed - you've certainly seem to have solved the mystery that has illuded me for so long that Eleanor was not on any census record in 1861 as the family were actually living/on holiday in Cork, Ireland and in then 1871 she was in service working in London.  I can finally add Eleanor's siblings and parents onto my family tree. 

Thanks so much everyone for your help.
 

[shaunadavid]

I was wondering if you had any thing more on the parents of your illusive Barber relative? I am searching for info on a Susan/Susanna(h) Barber born around 1828 in Frome. With Frome being only 20 miles from Keinton, I was wondering if your John (father to Eleanor/Ellen) was a brother to my Susannah and if you had anything more to go on. I am having quite the time finding info on Susannah. I'd be interested in hearing if you've had any luck/success.

Shauna