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Offline littleprince

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Bessie Wales My G.G.Granny and my Brickwall
« on: Saturday 05 January 08 23:58 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth or Bessie Wales was my great great grandmother. She gave birth to my great grandfather John Wales about 1837 in Berwick on Tweed, she was not married to John`s father. When John married he stated on marriage certificate that his father was William Sanderson (shoemaker). John became known as John Sanderson later spelt as Saunderson.
On the 1841 census Elizabeth Wales a 30 year old female servant was residing on the Parade in Berwick,  John aged 4 was living in Castlegate, Berwick with 75 year old Margaret Sanderson who I can only assume at this point to be his grandmother.
I cannot find any other trace of Bessie, until I think the 1861 census, living at Adelaide House, Finsbury, London as a 55 year old cook, Betsey Wales, born Berwick on Tweed.  I am not even sure that she is the same person.
I would really like to find out more about Bessie as I do not have her birth, death or any marriage, or other census info apart from above.
Thanks in anticipation of any help that you can give.

Gilly
Saunderson- Dumfries, Edinburgh & South Africa
McClure, Neisham, Walls, Beck- Dumfries
Nicholson, Scott - Berwick upon Tweed
Ross- Dumfries, Peebles
McDonnell - Ireland, Co Durham
McGuire - Ireland, Co Durham

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Re: Bessie Wales My G.G.Granny and my Brickwall
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 January 08 02:03 GMT (UK) »

Hi Gilly

This may be her, very hard to read tho :-

1851 Census England Surrey Camberwell Peckham
HO107/1581/?/?
4 Kent Villas Asylum Road

In the household of Agnes STURDY, widowed annuitant,

WALES Elizabeth Serv Unmarr 44 General Servant Berick Upon Tweed

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Karenlee
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Re: Bessie Wales My G.G.Granny and my Brickwall
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 January 08 02:06 GMT (UK) »

The IGI shows :-

SANDERSON William born 26 May 1809 Tynemouth Northumberland
                                christened 18 June 1809 Tynemouth Northumberland

Father =  John SANDERSON
Mother = Margaret ALLELEY

Elizabeth named her son John, wondered if this was for his grandfather on either side?

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Karenlee
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Re: Bessie Wales My G.G.Granny and my Brickwall
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 January 08 10:12 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Karenlee

I could not find her anywhere in the 1851 census, you have helped enormously, also, I will try and follow up on this William
Sanderson and family, as it looks like he ould be the one.

Thanks again

Gilly
Saunderson- Dumfries, Edinburgh & South Africa
McClure, Neisham, Walls, Beck- Dumfries
Nicholson, Scott - Berwick upon Tweed
Ross- Dumfries, Peebles
McDonnell - Ireland, Co Durham
McGuire - Ireland, Co Durham


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Re: Bessie Wales My G.G.Granny and my Brickwall
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 21:17 GMT (UK) »

Berwick Parish Church
Baptism26 Feb 1837
John Wales, son of Elizabeth Wales ( "father" column blank).

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A snippet... today I browsed through a number of Berwick church records... I never saw another "Wales" event.

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Michael Dixon,
Newcastle
Names.

GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

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Re: Bessie Wales My G.G.Granny and my Brickwall
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 22:27 GMT (UK) »
Michael,

Thank you so much for this, this is my  great grandfather`s baptism. You have made my day.

Big thanks

Gilly
Saunderson- Dumfries, Edinburgh & South Africa
McClure, Neisham, Walls, Beck- Dumfries
Nicholson, Scott - Berwick upon Tweed
Ross- Dumfries, Peebles
McDonnell - Ireland, Co Durham
McGuire - Ireland, Co Durham