Turnditch/Windley Warren family

[griffwarren1]

Hello Suz
         I find Eliaz Warren quite a sad tale. I shall visit that house.

Thanks again
Grant

[suzard]

We haven't finished yet!!!!

Suz

[suzard]

William Warren -at home with parents Samuel/mary in 1851 and 1871

1861
Ash House
Ashbourne Rd
Turnditch
George Milnes Head M 45 Farmer emp i lab i boy Nottingham St Michaels
Ann wife 26 postern
George H son 2 Turnditch
Ann E daughter 6 mths Turnditch
Emma Allen U 20 Gen servant Hullanward
Emma Murphin 13 gen serv Turnditch
William Warren sservant 15 Servant in Husbandry Turnditch

next door to William's parents
RG9 2507 91 11

1871 home with parents

1881
Flower lillies
Windley
John G Crompton Head M 61 Magistrates deputy lieutenant Chesterfield
Isabella E Arkwright daughter M 26 The Lillies
Millicent E Crompton daughter 26 The Lillies
Charles E Arkwright son in law 33 Retired Officer Badenham Leominster
Elizabeth M Campbell Visitor U 31 Annuitant Nova scotia Halifax
John E Pollard Footman M 32 servant Hathern leics
William Waren Gardener M 35 Turnditch
Louisa Warren Cook M 30 Kirk Ireton
Edith M Bushell Lady's maid U 24 Sunbury mddsx
Maria Smedley 19 U Housemaid Turnditch
Eliza A Foulke Maid U 15 Alvaston
Florence C Hodgkinson Maid 14 ternditch

next door brother George anf family (Farm Bailiff)
RG11 3409 84 8

1891
The Lodge
Kirk ireton
Derbys
William Warren head M 46 gardener Domestic Kirk ireton
Louisa wife 40 Turnditch
next door to Turnditch Hall
and next Ash House -home of brother George
next door but three in other direction brother Samuel and family
RG12 2741 129 7

1901
Windley lane
(next door to Turnditch hall)
Turnditch
William Waren Head M 55 Gardener dom
Louisa wife 50
both b Turnditch
next door but 3 lived brother Samuel
RG13 3226 136 8

If there is anything else required, please ask

Do you find Eliza a sad tale because she didn'tmarry and was probably left alone in the once family home???

Suz

[suzard]

Little bit of history -which you possibly know
The Tiger and Cross Keys are still there and the post office has moved into the cross keys

Flower lillies
1857 Whites Directory
A handsome residence on a good elevation, a little north of the village is the seat and property of J G Crompton esq

Present day
Windley Hall is a georgian house and includes buildings in the grounds which was once a brewery and then a cooperative cheese factory - this building is now a holiday let

Suz

[griffwarren1]

Suz,
           Many thanks again for your work. I will be spending a sometime studting this and then a trip to Turnditch for a weekend!

Many thanks again!

Grant

[suzard]

Glad to be of help.

Enjoy your trip to Turnditch -are you going to stay in the ex brewery/cheese house???

It's great to walk the paths your ancestors walked

Enjoy

Suz

[griffwarren1]

Hello  Suz,
                   Its just up the road a lovely place but now I know alot more from you it will be more interesting.

Many Thanks
Grant
       

[warren67]

Hi

I would think it unlikely that there would be two Samuel Warren's of Turnditch, both married to a Mary and both working as coal higglers (hagglers).  I have a birth certificate, details as follows

Eliza Warren, died on the 29th November 1847 aged 9 months
Daughter of Samuel Warren - Coal Higgler.
Cause of death not known, no medical attendant for 10 days
Signature - the mark of Mary Warren, present at the death, Turnditch.
Death registered 3rd December 1847.

In your notes you mention Eliza outlived her parents and hers was a sad tale.  Can you expand on these points please.

Regards
Peter

[griffwarren1]

Hello Peter

                          There must be a relation between the two Warrens. I will try to summerise on the Eliza I know and maybe it will help understand where she got her name from.

In 1851
Samuel and Mary
William a 6
George a 2
Hannah a 8

In 1861
Samuel and Mary have
Georgianna a 9
Eliza   a 7
Samuel a 4
Boarder George Smith brother in law a 41
Lads had left home

1871
Samuel and Mary
William a 26
Eliza   a 17

Girls had left

1881
Samuel and Mary Sam is farming 2 acres
Eliza    a 27
George Smith boarder 
Now we have Eliza on her own with mam and dad.

From the Topic Summary you will see the rest of the family are doing ok

1891

Samuel dies aged 75  1880?
Mary Warren
Eliza  a 37
Joseph   Grandson aged 9 (Was this child born out of wedlock so thats why Eliza was left alone? Was she socially impaired?
George Smith Brother a 70

1901

Mary dies aged 78 1895

Eliza is now on her own. Her income is  'living by own means'
next door but three from the Tiger in.

      Iam wondering now if this Eliza was named after the dead child? If just seems strange she is not married and left alone. I know George and William lost three children in 1894 over the same period of months there graves are there.

I hope this summary helps understanding Eliza.


Regards

Grant

ps are you close to Turnditch?