Isabella Martha Wright

[jk22]

Hello KN,

Wow thanks for that. 

So was it the case that,  in 1832 in Hungerford,  she married Mr Runger; then in 1835 in Holborn, London, she married Mr Henry Kemp?!!

I guess in those days too people made mistakes and married in haste.  Maybe Isabella married Mr Runger and then left him??!  Or did he die?  Or did he run off?

She certainly used her name Wright on the Pallot's Marriage register, so why if she was a widow?  No shame in that, eh?

Warm regards,
Julie

[KN]

No, I suspect that the Isabella that Jill found in Hungerford is nothing to do with your Isabella at all - as evidenced by the fact that she married a Mr Runger in 1832; and, as Jill said earlier, the ages are significantly wrong.  Hence my comment she can "probably be discounted".
 
We can check this by looking for Mrs Isabella Runger in the census - a job for tomorrow I think.

KN

[titania]

Hi all ,
been following this thread as I love a good mystery.
Dilly asked earlier on if you had the registered birth certs for any of the later children. That would be a logical step and possibly confirm if Isabella was indeed born a Wright
You may get confirmation that Isabella was a widow when she married Henry but not necessarily. In any event, copies of all the relevant documentation will probably sort this one out.
thats my two bobs worth
Chris

[jillruss]

I agree with KN - I think the Hungerford Isabella Wright is 'accounted for' by that 1832 marriage in Hungerford.

I think obtaining the 1835 Kensington marriage certificate is probably your best bet now - at least it should indicate whether or not Isabella was a spinster or had been married before, and give her father's name which would be a big help.

Did the request for details of the marriage on the London Board produce anything?

Jill

[jk22]

Hello Jill,

Thanks so much. 
Have done a scan of work to date and have not been able to find an

1861 census entry for IMW/K.
Henry Kemp was born/baptised in Chilton Foliat, not far from Leverton and Hungerford.

I like your suggestion re the IGI ref to an 1810 birth year for IMW/K.

Maybe IMW/K was a widow at an early age and presumably childless, married HK in 1835.

CAn you tell me how i get a fuller record of Henry and Isabella's marriage from St Andrew's, Holborn, London in order as you suggest Jill?

I haven't had any response to the London posting as yet.

Warm regards,
Julie

[dillybert]

For the sake of completeness, William and Isabella Rangers in 1841 Newbury:

HO107/33/5, Folio: 4, Page 5

[KN]

From the Berkshire Burial Index:

burial of Isabella Ranger, 8 July 1843, Newbury, St Nicholas.
Incidentally, Isabella & William had three daughters who died as infants between 1834 and 1837.  Imagine dealing with that.

So, we can be confident that the Hungerford Isabella of 1810 that Jill discovered is not Julie's 1803 Isabella. (sorry Julie!)

KN
ps what a shame you can't search the IGI using just a first name.  In this case it would be really helpful.  Yes, the marriage certificate is the way to go!

[jillruss]

Except that - another of my 'doh!' moments - they married in 1835, before civil reg started!!   

So, I think I'd first try asking on the London Board for anyone with Kensington PRs (worth a try) and then - failing that - a request to the appropriate FHS. I'm not 'up' on London parishes and FHSs, so don't know which FHS you would need.

Julie, I see you've put a request on the London Board for help with what you think could be Henry Kemp's second marriage in 1858 to Jane Mary Bell, but I'd be inclined to try for the Isabella/Henry marriage and see if there is any additional info given in the parish register entry.

KN, you can search on the IGI for just a first name. I find it won't accept it if you don't put a county in, unless it's a reasonably unusual name. It's also as well to keep your date range pretty narrow - and, if necessary, build it up with lots of different searches with different date ranges.

Obviously, looking for a - say - Bartholomew somebody is always going to be easier than looking for a John or a William!!

It does work - honest!

Jill

[KN]

Hey ho Jill - we all have brainstorms like that - look how easily I agreed with you about that certificate from 1835!

Julie: have a look at http://www.sog.org.uk/projects/sah/sahome.htm for information about a project run by the Society of Genealogists transcribing the registers of St Andrews, Holborn.  The web pages seem not to have been updated for some time so there's no indication of how the project is going.  Worth further investigation possibly?

Jill: no luck with IGI searches using just a first name, even with the tightest of years and a country!

KN