Robert Armstrong from Scotland

[Jeffrey]

Looking back at the earliest date he could have emigrated - that would have been after Julyish 1854.

Where would I be able to find out when some one emigrated to Canada? That would give me concluse proof.

I think I have found his family in Scotland - I wonder if any of his brothers went with him. Will look on the web site  for the census's that you gave me Karen.
Still hoping it is him.

Judy

[jorose]

Do you know who his parents were? That would be a big help as they might be listed on his marriage or death record - like the death registration Karen found.

[Jeffrey]

His father was definately a John Armstrong but I think his mother was an Isabel Little. However on the death that Karen found it said Elliot. If so will have to look further for their family. However there is only one Robert Armstrong recorded as born in Dumfries in 1831 and this is him.

I have however found that often children & grandchildren did not know the name of their grandmother in England and I have had other instances where they have got the surname completely wrong. So the only sure thing is his father being John.

Cheers
Judy

[Jeffrey]

Hi Jorose,

Thank you for your help

Just seen that the names of parents may be on the marriage certificate - how would I find that?

Judy

[J.J.]

Not that it is correct, as submissions tend to be off, but Robert  born to John & Isabel Little says 1827... Where did you find 2 parent's names, was this family history?
Also did you look at the 2 Roberts in the U.S. for 1880?

 J.J.

[J.J.]

There's a few likelys listed between 1854-1861...did you know his occupation, by chance...?
http://www.castlegarden.org/

[Jeffrey]

Hi JJ
Got the year from the 1841 & 1851 census which can be a little off and from another  posting on rootschat . I have tried to contact the person who posted it but they haven't got back to me yet.
 Where did you get ithe date from - I would be very interested. As it is very hard to trace all the Armstrongs from that area and I am looking at every possibility.

Also the Robert Armstrong born 1833 on the American cenus is definately not the father. I have researched him and his family quite well. He was the front runner as he came from a farm called Torcoon (spelt many ways) near Canonbie and that is where my Gt Grandmother was born but he unfortunately emigrated before my gt grandmothers conception!

Have not researched the other one on the American Census. Do you know how I would go about that please.

Your new post has just arrived - Yes he was a Servant - probably agricultural on a farm - that is why emigrating would give him a great opportunity of owning a farm or land.

Judy

[J.J.]

   The two I saw from Scotland on the 1880 were born 1825 and 1830...in Iowa &  Mich. Both are farmers. ( there's also one in the U.K./ b. 1830, a domestic Gardener..doesn't state where in Scotland)
The information  from the IGI is on the same LDS site, IGI submissions...
birth June 22 1826   Priorhill, Canonbie, Dumfries, Scotland
  The immigration in 1856 of one born in 1830, Occupation unknown, could be the one in the U.S.  as the one in Canada says immigration 1853...

We have an Immigration to the U.S. board as well... J.J.

[Jeffrey]

Hi JJ

Thank you for the information.

Where did you get the information about the one born in Prior hill Canonbie in 1825 from.

I have looked at others from Canonbie but some I have discounted as they were not servants. I know he was definately a servant in 1854as the Kirk records said this:
Compeared Charteris Jackson with child in uncleaness and being solemnly exhorted and interrogated, declared that Robert Armstorng was guilty with her and the father of her child, that this guilt was committed at Orchard in the month of April last when they were both servants at the time.
Orchard is a farm & she was a farm servant.

Cheers
Judy My initials are JJ too!