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Narcissus Manpowder
« on: Wednesday 16 January 08 20:58 GMT (UK) »
I kid you not. Narcissus Manpowder is the name.  :o

OK, bit of background to this and me as I'm new here.

I started doing my family tree back in the early 80s when a Great Aunt died in Plymouth and whilst clearing the house we found piles of old paperwork. For the next 5 years I spent hours in record offices, vestries etc researching the Benneys of Cornwall and Devon with some considerable success.

Along the way I kept getting sidetracked by various interesting things. Most of them I managed to bring to a conclusion so I could move on but one of them is still bugging me to this day.

In the Hearth Taxes I found a Benney who was renting a dwelling owned by a Narcissus Manpowder. Now with a name like that it just had to be followed up. Trouble is I found absolutely nothing else.

When all the records started to go online I figured at last I'd be able to find more about him but, nothing. Well, almost nothing.

There is a reference to a Manpowder family in a Coat of Arms in the old mansion of the Glanvilles at Kilworthy, near Tavistock:

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    Hen. Manaton de Harwood, m. Martha Andrews, Lyme Regis. Arms : Sable, a saltire Argent between four cross-crosslets Or. About different parts of the house are thirty-six other coats, shewing the descent of the Manatons and their alliances with other houses, such as Buller, Hockmore, Manaton, Edgecumbe, Manpowder, Ilbert, Carminow, Roscarrock, Courtney, Kingdon, Trecarrol, Tremaine, Hunt, etc., etc. Kilworthy, and most of the property in and about Tavistock, now belongs to the Duke of Bedford.

and in an extract from a baptism in Twyford Hampshire:

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14.07.1832 Twyford House
Christened by Revd Charles Shipley, Rector of Manpowder, Dorset

Given the family and the rented cottage seemed to have connections with Devon and Cornwall, Dorset seemed like a pretty good bet but the village is called Mappowder and I can't find any info that it was previously Manpowder.

There seems to have been a large manor there, the house there now is believed to have been built on a previous building that nobody knows much about.

So my question is, does anyone know if Mappowder was previously Manpowder and has anyone else come across Narcissus?
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Re: Narcissus Manpowder
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 21:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andesine,

I've never come across Narcissus as a name before so looked it up on Familyhistoryonline. It seems to have been most popular in the West country

A Narcissus MAKEPOUDER (as transcribed) married Anstace PHILLIPS at Poughill, Cornwall 12th January 1657/8

There was also a George MAKEPOUDER baptised at St Keverne in 1614 - father Richard Makepouder

There are also a few MAKEPOWDER s listed, in Cornwall and Somerset.

No Manpowders or Manpouders anywhere on  Familyhistoryonline.
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Re: Narcissus Manpowder
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 21:26 GMT (UK) »
The IGI has a Narcissus MAKEPOWDER, son of Trystram christened 1575 at Holsworthy in Devon, and another one marrying Katherine Vinicombe 1700 at Crediton in Devon.

There are no MANPOWDERs or MANPOUDERs on the IGI either.
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Re: Narcissus Manpowder
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Andesine ... can you give us some dates ?


(And a warm welcome to Rootschat by the way !)
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Re: Narcissus Manpowder
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 21:36 GMT (UK) »
I don't have all the documents to hand at the moment but we're talking 1664 Hearth Taxes. There's no info on his age just that he owned the property.

I'll see if I can find the actual record. If I'm not back in half an hour, send someone to pull me out of the mountains of boxes.  ;D
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Re: Narcissus Manpowder
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Will do !

We all have mountains of boxes, so appreciate the problem ...
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
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Re: Narcissus Manpowder
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 21:51 GMT (UK) »
 ;D I'm more organised than I thought.

Hearth Taxes 1664

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Narcissus Manpowder gent whereof one in ye Mill House 7 stopt up 3 + the Mill House now in possession of Richard Benney

Hmmm the Makepowder/pouder records. I suppose they could be misspellings for parts of the family fallen on harder times but if they were Gentry I figure the scribes would have got it correct.
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Re: Narcissus Manpowder
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
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Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

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Re: Narcissus Manpowder
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 22:04 GMT (UK) »
Also a ref. in Google books (very useful site ... do you know it ?)

http://www.rootschat.com/links/02ju/
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

WRITE LETTERS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO TREASURE ... EMAILS DISAPPEAR !

Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk