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'Kate Mansbridge' b. Kings Worthy 1840
« on: Tuesday 22 January 08 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Am researching  'Catherine (Kate) Mansbridge' born Winchester about 1840 and died, New Malden about 1909

Would like to find out where and what she was doing BEFORE she married
railway worker, Harry Hayward in 1872.  For example did she have any children prior to this marriage?

Can anyone help?

Thanks

WAG

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Re: 'Kate Mansbridge' b. Kings Worthy 1840
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 14:52 GMT (UK) »
I am struggling to find her in 1871 census. Do you have her marriage cert? If so, what is name and occupation of father?

And just to confirm a few facts rather than "about" dates:

Birth:
Jan/Feb/MAr 1840 Catherine Jane MAnsbridge
Winchester reg district

Marriage:
oct/Nov/Dec 1872
Guildford reg distr
Kate JAne Mansbridge
also on page HArry James Hayward

Cant find death on freeBMD
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: 'Kate Mansbridge' b. Kings Worthy 1840
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 14:57 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I cannot find her in 1871 either.

no - don't have a marriage cert.

yes - I concur with your general facts

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Re: 'Kate Mansbridge' b. Kings Worthy 1840
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 15:02 GMT (UK) »
No doubt you have her in 1881;

RG11 839 95 23
High Street Thames Ditton

Harry j Hayward  27  Station Agent  bn Dorset
Kate J  37 wife  bn Winchester
Frederick 7 son bn Surrey Virginia Water
Herbert 3    son    "
Edith W 11 dtr bn Isle of Wight

Now, as they were married 1872, Edith was born before the marrriage. If she is Harry's dtr from a previous marriage he was only 16 when she was born. So it is more likely, as Kate is older, that Edith was Kates, but Harry has just accepted her as daughter.
Is this what you were getting at in your first post?

Next step is to find young Edith's birth - and look for her in 1871.
Have you done this yet? I dont want to duplicate what has already been done
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: 'Kate Mansbridge' b. Kings Worthy 1840
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Yes I agree.

Have been searching for Edith.

A possible candidate (Edith Mansbridge) turns up on the IOW, 1870.

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Re: 'Kate Mansbridge' b. Kings Worthy 1840
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 15:13 GMT (UK) »
Aha
Edith Isabel Mansbridge
Ap/May/Jun 1870
Isle of Wight

That looks like her,doesnt it? I will just go back to 1881 and see if the middle initial W could be an I

I think you will be best getting this birth cert to check out her parentage!


Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 'Kate Mansbridge' b. Kings Worthy 1840
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 15:16 GMT (UK) »
Yes, the middle name spoils the party.

Have also been looking whether this Edith ever got married - nothing found yet.

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Re: 'Kate Mansbridge' b. Kings Worthy 1840
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Found baby Edith Mansbridge in 1871!

RG10 1167 42 28
St Helens Hampshire

Frank Dash 40 Porter
Priscilla DAsh 31 wife
Edith Mansbridge 10 months nurse child bn IWShanklin

The question is - is this the daughter of Kate?
Need that birth cert!

Looks likely, as Kates daughter is clearly stated as 'born Isle of Wight' in 1881
I wouldnt rule anything out on the strength of that middle initial. Yes, it is a W , but he could have just been repeating the W from the line above as Herberts middle initial was a W.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 'Kate Mansbridge' b. Kings Worthy 1840
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 15:34 GMT (UK) »
I think it is.

The IOW helps to narrow the search.

Will get the birth cert.

Edith and her 2 brothers are proving difficult to trace.