Carbis

[Barbara F]

Hello Peter

Yes that looks correct to me.

Would you like information from the other censuses?  I have traced Benjamin back to 1841 - his parents were Joseph and Mary.

Barbara

I think I gave you the likely marriage reference for Richard and Bessie on the Cornwall thread.

[PeterY]

I am overwhelmed by the detailed infomation you have sent and cannot thank you enough.

My wife's family are heating up the phonelines already.

They are over the moon and it is all down to you.

But if I can be cheeky I would love any further details you can send.

Many thanks

PeterY

[Barbara F]

1891

19 Oxford Street, Roath, Cardiff

Benjamin T Carbis Head Mar 56 Master Mariner & Cabman b  Penzance Cornwall
Rebecca Wife Mar 55 b Chelsea London
Charlotte H Dau 27 Dressmaker b  Penzance Cornwall
Edward L Son Cabman b  Penzance Cornwall
Richard Son 20 Marine Engineer Steward b  Penzance Cornwall
John L Son 19 Plumber Apprentice b  Penzance Cornwall
Emily Dau 14 Dressmaker b Glamorgan Cardiff

At same address but a separate household (another son of Benjamin)
Tom L Carbis Head Mar 28 Cabman b  Penzance Cornwall
Ruth Wife 24 b Newton ? Lancashire
Dora L dau 3 Months b Cardiff

Ref RG12 4387 f12

Barbara

[Barbara F]

1871

21 St Clare St, Penzance

Benjamin T Carbis Head Mar 36 Master Mariner b Cornwall Penzance
Rebecca Wife Mar 35 b Middx Chelsea
Tom L Son 8 b Cornwall Penzance
Charlotte M Dau 7 b Cornwall Penzance
Benjamin T Son 5 b Cornwall Penzance
Edward L Son 3 b Cornwall Penzance
Richard Son 11 months b Cornwall Penzance

RG10 2341 f15

More shortly.

Barbara

[Barbara F]

1851
St Clare Terrace, Penzance
Joseph Carbis Head Mar 43 Mason b Cornwall Gulval
Mary Wife Mar 46 b Cornwall St Columb
Benjamin T Son 16 Mason's Son b Cornwall Penzance
Elizabeth Emily Dau 7 b Cornwall Penzance

Ref HO107 1918 f 667

1841
St Michael's Terrace, Penzance
Joseph Carbis Junior 30 Mason
Mary 30
Benjamin Tippett 6
All born in county

Ref HO107 143/2 f 31

I cannot see Benjamin in 1861 at the moment.

Barbara

[Barbara F]

1861

Pendarver Row, Penzance
Joseph Carbis Head Mar 54 Master Mason b Cornwall Gulval
Mary Wife 56 Laundress b Cornwall St Columb
Elizabeth Emily Dau 17 Dressmaker b Cornwall Penzance

Ref RG9 1594 f 53

This looks like Benjamin's marriage

Marriages Dec 1861 
 
Carbis  Benjamin Tippet    Chelsea  1a 257   
Glennie  Walter O'Brien     Chelsea  1a 257   
Lake  Rebecca     Chelsea  1a 257   
McRae  Isabella Constance     Chelsea  1a 257

I wonder if Benjamin was at sea in 1861?

Barbara

[Barbara F]

Still no luck with Benjamin in 1861 although there is a Rebecca Lake working as a servant in Penzance who was born 1836 in Chelsea.  Which could explain how they met.

In the 1841 census Joseph father of Benjamin was described as "Junior" suggesting that his father might be Joseph also.

I have found this family in Penzance who could be Joseph's parents and siblings.  The occupations certainly fit!

Back of St Clare Street.
Joseph 65 Labourer
May 64
Willm 25 Mason
Richd 20 Mason
May 30

All born in Cornwall.

Ref HO107143/ 2 f 29

Also, if you look on family search you will find a baptism of Joseph Carbis in Gulval son of Joseph and Mary on 30 Oct 1807.

There are several Carbis baptisms in Gulval to a Joseph and Mary including a William in 1812 , Richard in 1820 and a Mary in 1806 - these fit with the family in 1841 (remember that the ages of those over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5.

Take care when looking at the family search site as I note there are submitted and extracted entries.  the extracted ones are the safest to use although any of particular importance should be checked against the parish registers.

Well, enough from me now.  When you have digested all this do ask any questions.

Barbara

Edit
Have just seen a marriage for Joseph Carbis of Gulval to Mary Bowden at Ludgvan 29 Aug 1801.  These would be Benjamin's grandparents.

[PeterY]

Well all I can say it a big thanks to all concerned especially Barbara F.

I now have a lot to work on and if I can't make everyoen happy and come out with a proper tree I shouldn't be doing it.

MAny thanks

[Barbara F]

Good Luck Peter.

Just one gap I can fill in for you - I checked on the Cornwall FHS database this afternoon.

Joseph Carbis m Mary Tippet Madron 11 September 1831

Also a couple of websites you will find very useful for Cornwall research

http://www.cornwall-opc.org/index.htm

http://west-penwith.org.uk/


Barbara