MILLER William Vincent b.c1892 - COMPLETED

[SASHAR]

   
1851 HO107/2359 267/9 Yorkshire Beverley st Mary
North bar Within
John Webster head mar 42 grocer (master) Yorkshire Kirby under dale
Sarah do wife mar 43     do Beverley
Richard Hustwick son in law U 14 cabinet makers apprentice do do
William Hustwick son in law 12 ------------- do do
Mary hustwick daur in law 10 ---------- do do
Thomas Hustwick son in law 8 scholar do do
Robert Webster son 2 ---------- do do
 

Looking at the Hustwick children here.   I'm a bit confused as to how they can be described as "son in law/daur in law"?
Is it possible they were step children to John Webster ie Sarah's children?

Appreciate some thoughts on this - thanks, Sashar

[Tati]

Hi Sashar,

Yes, "in law" was commonly used for "step"

 

[trish251]

Hi Sashar,

Yes, "in law" was commonly used for "step"

 

definitely   

Trish

[SASHAR]

Hi Tati and Trish,
Thanks for your replies.   I have learnt a lot this last week from this site.
I'll keep plodding along - I'm sure there will be something else you folk will be able to enlighten me on.
You're a great help - thanks,  Sashar

[SASHAR]

Back again after some searching on the net. 

Look to be just married  1861
RG9/3569 70/16 Yorkshire Beverley St Martin
Well Lane (I think)
John C Miller head mar 22 Serg in Her Majesty's Army America N.B.S
Mary do wife mar 21 Yorks Beverley

NBS - Not Brit Subj?

Found on the UK National Archives that NBS is Naturalised British Subject.
I can't find a Naturalization record for John C Miller on the site, I've checked for him born in USA or Austria and I guess it would have to be before 1861.
There is a Joachim Miller naturalized 1859, he was from Baden.  That's my closest find.   I guess John Miller's name could have been something completely different but family has always thought the name was Mueller or something similar.
I must say I find the UK Archives site a bit hard to navigate around.  I thought maybe he might be found in some Army Records as per the 1861 Census occupation.
If anyone is good at navigating the UK Archives site and doesn't mind double checking for me I would really appreciate it.
Hope that's not too much to ask - thankyou,  Sashar

[trish251]

I should have realised the "Naturalised" - sorry - I have mainly seen B.S. by itself. I am hopeless re the UK archives Sashar -I wonder if it would be worth a post on the armed services board - there are some good experts there who may be able to tell you where to look

Trish

[SASHAR]

Hi Trish,
No apologies necessary, you are a great help on this site.
I will put something on the armed services board - always forget that's there.
Not sure if I should buy the marriage cert of John C Miller and Mary Hustwick. They married 1861.   Probably only get his father's name off it as new info.
What info would a death certificate contain?  From a contact on Genes Reunited I've found Charles to have died 1919 at Hull but I don't have the Certificate no's.
Thanks again for your help and suggestions - Sashar

[trish251]

Hi Sashar

I don't buy English death certificates. To the best of my knowledge you will get

when & where died
age at death
cause of death
occupation
informant

For children you sometimes get a parent name & for women I have seen a husbands name in the occupation item. The only one I bought had a neighbour as the informant & told me virtually nothing!

Trish

[SASHAR]

Today I received a copy of the marriage certificate of John Charles MILLER and Mary HUSTWICK 19.3.1861 Sculcoates, York.
John was 22, Bachelor, occupation Mariner, father John Miller, also Mariner.
I can't read the residence at time of marriage.
Mary was 21, Spinster, no occupation stated, residence St John "Street?", definately St John something.
Her father John Hustwick, Ironmonger as you have already found for me.
Witnesses look like Thomas "Hocking"? and Mary Ann "Hanley or Hawley"

Is it now possible to find anything else out about J C Miller's background?

I have also posted this info on the New York board.

Any further suggestions appreciated - regards,  Sashar