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Kate Evelina Frohock - COMPLETED
« on: Monday 28 January 08 14:36 GMT (UK) »
Help please!

I am trying to do a "surprise" family tree for an elderly aunt based around her grandmother - Kate Evelina Frohock (or "de Frohock").  So far, I'm not doing very well!

I know her date of birth : June 1863 in Willingham.  I have her in the 1871 census living with her mother Elizabeth.  (Apparently the father - George -died young. ) Kate has two sisters, Mary and Annie.

They were farmers (quite a big farm 170 acres, employing 5 men....). 

There is a Thomas Frohock living in the same road "Main Street", Willingham. He is a retired farmer of 77. I don't know if they are related, but would think so.

Kate married a  Charles Thomas Wooldridge in June 1885.  I have them in the 1891 census living in St Cuthbert, Bedfordshire, England - and then I'm stuck!! ???

I would be very grateful for any help in finding anything else about Kate and her ancestors and descendants....

Many thanks

tilly
Lancaster- L. Buzzard  Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer-Fulham
Clifford - London, ssx, S Africa, Berks, Wilts  
Divall-Ssx  Randall-Ssx, Surrey 
Rossi-Sienna Notts Leics London   
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk   Burke - Co Clare



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Re: Kate Evelina Frohock
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 January 08 14:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tilly,

As always the basic starting information will be crucial to your research.

(Apparently the father - George -died young. )

Where does this information (esp. the name George) come from?  I don't see any suitable marriage or death of a George, but I do see a William marrying and a William dying at the right sort of time and in the right place:


Marriage

William FROHOCK

to Sophia GIFFORD or Elizabeth TIBBITT

Dec 1861 Chesterton 3b 1071


Death

William FROHOCK

Sep 1865 Chesterton 3b 299 (unfortunately ages not indexed until 1866!)


So - how reliable is the information that you are looking for a George?

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Kate Evelina Frohock
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 January 08 14:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tilly,

In 1901 they are at RG13/990 16 24

 :)
 "My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness"  

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Re: Kate Evelina Frohock
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 January 08 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello Anna and Tati

Thanks for the info - I'll look it up.

I was also starting to wonder whether the name George is correct as I can't find him anywhere!  I was told all this on the phone by my aunt yesterday, but she does tend to go from one subject to another and - as we were on the phone for over an hour - I might have got the name wrong!

I don't want to ask her too many questions, as it will spoil the surprise....... but if necessary, I'll try and get the information somehow.


thanks again

Tilly
Lancaster- L. Buzzard  Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer-Fulham
Clifford - London, ssx, S Africa, Berks, Wilts  
Divall-Ssx  Randall-Ssx, Surrey 
Rossi-Sienna Notts Leics London   
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk   Burke - Co Clare



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Re: Kate Evelina Frohock
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 January 08 15:13 GMT (UK) »
Anna's find really looks spot on - there's a matching Elizabeth Tibbit on earlier census too  :D

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Re: Kate Evelina Frohock
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 January 08 15:17 GMT (UK) »
Viz. the Thomas Frohock who in 1871 is living next door to the widowed Elizabeth: in 1861 he appears at the same address (Main Street, Willingham) with unmarried son William Frohock, 25, farmer's son, in the household.

RG9/1019 folio 43 p 7

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Kate Evelina Frohock
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 January 08 15:19 GMT (UK) »
When's auntie's birthday. In other words, how long have we got?

Long enough to order Kate Evelina's birth cert?

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Kate Evelina Frohock
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 January 08 15:27 GMT (UK) »
 A tree on Rootsweb has Kate's father as William

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=linclinks&id=I037508

The lady who has researched it is pretty reliable as I have worked with her on her Bowd family

Depends on time - I would normally say verify everything in other people's trees, but as the George name seems less than reliable I'd be tempted to go with the tree! The tree accords with what Anna has deduced

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Kate Evelina Frohock
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 January 08 19:01 GMT (UK) »
Hello David, Anna and Tati

Thank you very much for all the info :-*.... It seems to fit together very well.

It'll be a bit of a tight squeeze to do it for her birthday - as it's on Wednesday!  No - I'd like to give it to her when I go to England at the beginning of May....

All the information you've given me is going to help me find out even more...... but if you have any more ideas it would be great - especially as I don't know anything about the family.

I shall have a look at the family tree on Rootsweb too - that will be very interesting.

So - thank you very much again for your help

Tilly :)
Lancaster- L. Buzzard  Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer-Fulham
Clifford - London, ssx, S Africa, Berks, Wilts  
Divall-Ssx  Randall-Ssx, Surrey 
Rossi-Sienna Notts Leics London   
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk   Burke - Co Clare



Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk