Markham of Oadby, Leicestershire

[sft456]

I have traced my Grandmother's family to 1836 when Richard Markham was born (he later married Matilda Ludlam (1842 - 1884) at St Peter's Church Oadby on 10 April 1860).

However although I can trace Matilda's antecedents through Ludlam, Peberdy and Juland of Thurnby in the 18th century, I can find no further ascendants or siblings of Richard. Can anyone help please?

[Tati]

Hi Sft and welcome to RootsChat 

I believe this to be your Richard in 1841:
HO107/599/6 23 4
Oadby, Leicestershire
Robert Markeram, 35  Ag lab
Mercy, 35
Sophia, 14
William, 12
Richard, 5
Robert, 3
Frances, 9 months

All born in county

 

[sft456]

I have traced my Grandmother's family to 1836 when Richard Markham was born (he later married Matilda Ludlam (1842 - 1884) at St Peter's Church Oadby on 10 April 1860). They were both born in Oadby

However although I can trace Matilda's antecedents through Ludlam, Peberdy and Juland of Thurnby in the 18th century, I can find no further ascendants or siblings of Richard. Can anyone help please?

[Tati]

Hi again - I see you've started a new thread so I'll repeat my reply from the other thread

Hi Sft and welcome to RootsChat 

I believe this to be your Richard in 1841:
HO107/599/6 23 4
Oadby, Leicestershire
Robert Markeram, 35  Ag lab
Mercy, 35
Sophia, 14
William, 12
Richard, 5
Robert, 3
Frances, 9 months

All born in county.

Do you have Richard's marriage cert? 

   

[Tati]

I had a look at all census and it seems that several of these siblings are found as Markham on later census. Here are the parents ...

1851
HO107/2081 114 25 & 26
Oadby, Leicestershire
Main Street
Robert Markram, head, 48, Ag lab, b. Oadby
Mercy, wife, 49, b. Wigston Magna
William, son, 22, Frame Work Knitter, b. Oadby
Robert, son, 12, Yarn winder, b. do.
Thomas, son, 8, scholar, b. do.
Susanna, dau, 5, scholar, b. do.
Needham, visitor, unm, 21, F W K, b. Whetstone

Richard is elsewhere in service

1861
RG9/2255 92 22 & 23
Oadby, Leicestershire
London Rd
Robert Markham, head, 58, Bricklayer's Labourer, b. Leicestershire Desborough
Mercy, wife, 60, Sock Seamer, b. Wigston Magna
Robert, son, unm, 22, Ag lab, b. Oadby
Thomas, son, 18, Frame Work Sock Knitter, b. do.
Susanna, dau, 15, Sock Seamer, b. Oadby

Robert & Mercy, all on their own, are called Markham again in 1871. Mercy is down as deaf from *** (can't read, but doesn't look like birth to me). Mercy's death is registered in the surname Markham in Dec 1877 (Blaby  registration district) and Robert dies as Robert Markham (Jun 1881 Blaby)

[sft456]

Hello Tati

Many thanks for all this information

Often,as you know, the census are difficult to read, so I suppose Markham could look like Markeram or Markram. Unfortunately I don't have Richard M Jnr wedding certificate.....did they give parents details etc in those days. Would his birth certificate be available? this should give the correct name and perhaps even his correct date of birth - both seem to change as often as his place of birth!!

In your travels you didn't notice her maiden name by any chance?

I also wonder what happened to Frances - perhaps she died in infancy

Best wishes

Simon

[Tati]

Hi again 

It's definitely Markeram and Markram on the census image. I had a look at BMD and these all seem to belong to the family - note different spellings:

Birth Jun 1838 Robert MARKARAM Blaby 15 64
Birth Sep 1840 Frances Markram  Blaby  15 58   
Death Mar 1842  Frances MARKARAM  Blaby 15 53
Birth Mar 1843  Thomas Markaram Blaby 15 60   
Birth Mar 1846  Susannah Markham Blaby 15 60   
Marriage Jun 1851 William Markram Blaby 15 103
Marriage Jun 1856 Sophia MARKHAM Blaby 7a 101
Marriage Jun 1860 Richard Markham (to Matilda Ludlam) Blaby  7a 97 

Richard was born before the start of civil registration therefore you won't be able to get a birth cert giving his mother's maiden name for him. Anyway what you need to establish first is whether your Richard's father was indeed called Robert. This is what you should find on the marriage cert:
The details contained on a marriage certificate include:

Date and place of marriage.
Name, age and marital status of man and woman.
Occupation and usual address.
Name and occupation of each party's father.
Names of the witnesses.
Name of the person who solemnised the marriage  

If the marriage cert shows Robert as the father then the next step would be to order a birth cert for one of Richard's siblings born after the start of civil registration to discover Mercy's maiden name. (As a matter of fact, there's a member-submitted record on familysearch showing a marriage Robert Markham - Mercy Russell, 26 Dec 1824)