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Offline charlotteuk

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What is meant by New North, Edinburgh
« on: Wednesday 13 February 08 22:11 GMT (UK) »
I have someone living in Edinburgh in 1861, who is described as being born c 1851 in New North.  I haven't been able to find this area and wonder if it was a reference to the New town?  Or could it possibly be Leith?

Does anyone have any ideas please?

Charlotte
GRIFFIN/GRAFFIN - Portglenone/Ahoghill Co.Antrim & Clydebank/Motherwell
NEESON - Co Antrim/Motherwell/Chicago
DARRAGH - Portglenone Co.Antrim
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DARLOW - Kenilworth/Coventry/Bubbenhall
(& South Warwickshire pre 1850)
DILWORTH - Kenilworth

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Re: What is meant by New North, Edinburgh
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Doesn't ring any bells with me, and I live in Edinburgh. Could it be a badly written "Leith North", "New Town", or "View Forth"? Not sure if View Forth (a street) existed then, but will have a look.
Ballingall, Donaldson, Fulton, Gillespie, Ramsay, Walker - in Fife.
Bury - in Salford & Liverpool.
Jack - in Glasgow, Dunfermline & Dundee.
Bermingham/Birmingham - in Cork.
Eagle - in Norfolk, Edinburgh & Glasgow.

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Re: What is meant by New North, Edinburgh
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Just checked. View Forth is shown on the plan surveyed in 1851 - one or two quite posh-looking houses. 

Can't think of any other possibles - sorry!
Ballingall, Donaldson, Fulton, Gillespie, Ramsay, Walker - in Fife.
Bury - in Salford & Liverpool.
Jack - in Glasgow, Dunfermline & Dundee.
Bermingham/Birmingham - in Cork.
Eagle - in Norfolk, Edinburgh & Glasgow.

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Re: What is meant by New North, Edinburgh
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your help Henry7, I think an address of View Forth as you described, would seem unlikely in this case if it was a wealthy area in 1851. 

Charlotte
GRIFFIN/GRAFFIN - Portglenone/Ahoghill Co.Antrim & Clydebank/Motherwell
NEESON - Co Antrim/Motherwell/Chicago
DARRAGH - Portglenone Co.Antrim
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DARLOW - Kenilworth/Coventry/Bubbenhall
(& South Warwickshire pre 1850)
DILWORTH - Kenilworth


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Re: What is meant by New North, Edinburgh
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Charlotte

Could you post the details of the census and maybe we can go and see what it looks like  :)

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Re: What is meant by New North, Edinburgh
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 23:44 GMT (UK) »
oops,  its actually the 1871 where its described as New North. ( I've been looking at so many!)

I was looking at  a John McQuade 685/04 023/04 003.

Charlotte
GRIFFIN/GRAFFIN - Portglenone/Ahoghill Co.Antrim & Clydebank/Motherwell
NEESON - Co Antrim/Motherwell/Chicago
DARRAGH - Portglenone Co.Antrim
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DARLOW - Kenilworth/Coventry/Bubbenhall
(& South Warwickshire pre 1850)
DILWORTH - Kenilworth

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Re: What is meant by New North, Edinburgh
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 February 08 08:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Charlotte

I've looked at the image

The sheet has New North on the Top and has been allocated to the Edinburgh St Giles district. The address is Old Assembly Close. All of the children (John's siblings) are down as being born New North down to 2-3 mth old daughter Jane.

So New North is part of St Giles and includes this street.


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Re: What is meant by New North, Edinburgh
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 February 08 09:43 GMT (UK) »
The description of the area from the header page is:

High Street (South Side) No 168 and Old Assemby Close, excluding the front tenement entering by No 4.
Note. This district does not include Conn's Close


I can't find Old Assembly Close on a quick look at the maps.

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Re: What is meant by New North, Edinburgh
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 February 08 11:19 GMT (UK) »
No problem now! Old Assembly Close is still there - a narrow entry which runs south from the south side of the High Street, east of St Giles' Cathedral and west of South Bridge.

Ballingall, Donaldson, Fulton, Gillespie, Ramsay, Walker - in Fife.
Bury - in Salford & Liverpool.
Jack - in Glasgow, Dunfermline & Dundee.
Bermingham/Birmingham - in Cork.
Eagle - in Norfolk, Edinburgh & Glasgow.